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yes we know, you like to hear yourself talk all the time, and unless someone agrees with everything you say, you dismiss them out of hand.
that tells us that you are the small minded one, as well as the closed minded one. perhaps one day you will open up your mind to new possibilities, but i doubt it, as you will always be an intolerant liberal who hates what ever you want to hate with a passion.
In asking Congress to curb legal immigration, Mr. Trump intensified a debate about national identity, economic growth, worker fairness and American values that animated his campaign last year. Critics said the proposal would undercut the fundamental vision of the United States as a haven for the poor and huddled masses, while the president and his allies said the country had taken in too many low-skilled immigrants for too long to the detriment of American workers.
“This legislation will not only restore our competitive edge in the 21st century, but it will restore the sacred bonds of trust between America and its citizens,” Mr. Trump said at a White House event alongside two Republican senators sponsoring the bill. “This legislation demonstrates our compassion for struggling American families who deserve an immigration system that puts their needs first and that puts America first.”
Yet, Trump has not changed his policy and stand of bringing in Migrant workers to work at his clubs and he still does not produce any of his products in America,
Where I work I see so few modern day Immigrants, many of the people if they are from immigrant status, they have been in the country for decades, and are likely second generation, maybe even third.
I don't see it as a major matter, I see the need for U.S, as a whole to develop a new mindset and learn from the Immigrants. In many Immigrants as in many lands, people don't grow up with the single Idea of "go get a job", they grow up with thinking how to "create business". We can't deny that fact, we when we see so many immigrant who become small business owners. How and where they get the start up money, I don't know. but even when living on the West Coast, I saw many who created small businesses.
Now, I did have concern about the method that this country helps "refugees" to a level far and above what any American could ever get. I am not saying don't help the refugees", but make some of those same provision available to American people as well.
Good example is we have many "depressed areas' that are in need of small business growth. We won't help them, whether it is the Midwest and various Rural Areas or even inner cities whether its poor minorities or poor whites.
They can't get small business loans... and they certainly can't get one that helps them set up, and give them 5 yrs of "no tax", and then get interest home loans. We have many areas with "American Small Businesses" struggling, and they get barely nothing the help them uplift their business, or programs that help other enterprising people to get their business up and going.
The overhead is very steep for many who want to do various business. When I first moved here, the banker employee told me, she was of desire to start a business, but the start up cost were more than she could handle, but the banks does not give loans to start up's.
I invested in a business design to help other small business to get set up, and had my plan approved by SBA, and invested my own money, but could not secure funding to push it forward at the points when the economy was struggling as a whole. When the $19 Billion was given to SBA to help business keep their doors open, that money was dispensed to the larger small businesses - by the time it came to the lower level of start up, that fund was depleted.
I had a long conversation with SBA, as to why they did not develop their own lending program for the small start up business after they review the Business Plan and give their approval. Not only did they not have such, they don't write letters of recommendation either.
America was built by "small businesses" and to rebuild American, we will have to find means to give focus to small business start ups. It does not matter if its "farming', or select product line farming, to a range of small builders and creators who make unique things. The best options some get is the annual participation in "Farmers Market", which often present a wide variety of unique products that people develop, but they can't get their business off the ground, usually due to lack of funding sources.
The good thing with small business include many positives, including the kids of the business owner learning responsibility, being involved in the business growth and development and learning. I see many "handy man services" and some are very highly skilled individuals, but they can't grow their business because there is an overhead in cost that often put them at a disadvantage. Some simply have gone to the "oil fields", "and during the natural gas boom, some went there, but found a lot of that work was short lived, when the price of gas stabilized at a nominal level.
The clip about "The Poorest Town in Every State" is truly a sad reality... but within those towns, the people still matter, and within some of all such towns across American, there are creative people, who can be inspired if there is some means to help and assist them in their endeavors... These towns should not have to be held in stagnation, with only one option such as "waiting for some megal company to come and save them. Often times, that is not going to happen, because the degree riders who make such decisions of location, do not give much focus to these towns. Then some areas after a certain level of being stagnant for a very long time, do not become viable options that they would consider. Thus so, this is where the need for "small business development" comes as a lifeline to growth.
Many States have the ability to structure policy and manage regulations that help these localities to start up, IF there was funding available. Even Venture Capitalist often function in the vacuum of select industry, and often that is located in Major Prospering Metro's.. We have some cities that are functioning but not even near capacity, which has many "industrial sites" that could be utilized before they reach a level of deterioration and become too costly to retrofit.
Locally, we seen many location that don't get the push or the ideas that can make use of that space, and the Cost Lost of it sitting empty has a lifespan, and beyond that lifespan of being empty, it become harder to market it and often their are not enough programs to promote it.
We Exported so Much so Fast.... and many of the mega companies in Foreign Lands, have figured out how to make benefit of the small business, some make supply chain components for the big factories, and over time those small business prosper and grow. We've seen that cycle multiplied tremendously in Asian countries.
Even when it comes to Foreign Locations that have become Major Industrial Manufacturing, we have not made effort to take advantage of the "Sister City Programming', which could be a link to attract investment from those various hubs. We allowed the HB1 Visa program, to omit many of the struggling areas, of which the program had provision to support Rural and depressed areas, but somehow, that program resulted to benefit people in Major Metro's but not in the rural areas and the challenged sections of our massive inner city areas that struggle all across this country.
We could be training people in producing the things we utilize, such as basic stuff... Why don't we have course anymore such as existed long ago, "Future Farmers of America", "Shoe Makers", "Shirt Makers" and even look at how we can again become a maker of the same Appliance we use in our homes. We will never be able to compete, if we don't start... again to build and make these things. Technology is available today that can usher us into commodities of many types, become the models and systems exist... but the issue is "training people in various skill development", catalog usable facilities that can be put into a "cost manageable lease structure for start ups", "Tax Modification where they have time to build and modify and grow". We have models we can use "All Across America", such as the model that New York Utilizes This can be modified to meet State and county needs as to how it works. Then we need a "Funding Vehicle".
Instead of our Government Throwing money into various things that consume resources with limited benefit, we can re-direct funding, into growth and independence building programs", such as small business start ups.
If I had a family living on Federal program funds, such as Section 8- Food Stamps and a conglomeration of other funds, and I estimate that family to be locked into this for 5 yrs, that has a cost figure. why not factor that cost figure, and then do some math and see what is an available cost figure it would be to fund them for training to do start up business, to have it stable and independent within less than that proposed 5 yr span of reliance on benefits. Then we'd have those families set up in something that can grow, but at the same time, their kids are involved, so they learn business and responsibility, and the kids don't become an extension of yet another family stuck on Public assistance for another 5 yrs or so, and on and on and on...
We have to think different!!!! but first American people have to get over their animosity at seeing other American get help and assistance that truly can uplift them. Instead we rather sit back, and continually complain about the expanding benefit users, rather than get over the resentment at seeing others helped up. to become independent.
We do exactly that type of help and assistance for Refugees, but we won't do it for American people.
American Absurdity.... is costing us tremendously and the losses of the human potential cost us even more that we have no idea how to factor the loss, and the cost of lost opportunities, as well as the stagnated creativity that exist within the American population.
Everyone does not have wealthy parents, or a system of wealth resource to give them a leg up, or connect them in family ties business, or options to get and move to a level where they can put their talent and skills into small business development.
We need to realize the value of Small Business and what it means to Rebuilding America. It's absurd, that all our scholars have no concern to review the basic history and re-learn the truth of how American grew and developed in the first place.
We get stuck relying only on the Wealthy Industrialist to come and save us, and they have long ago, chosen to move their operations to Foreign Soils, and we still have even more to this very day, moving to foreign locations...
It's "wake up time" !!! Small Business builds nations... and that is exactly how American once grew its economic system to become a one great Industrial Power.
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People!!!!! whining and crying about "My Tax Dollars", and they are lined up ready to give Trump support to "give $780 billion Tax Cuts. Rather than leave Medicaid Alone and Leave Medicare alone, and use that money to invest in "medical services establishments. Example: " Go and canvas the Universities, seeking out the near term graduates, and prepare them and from this pool, choose those who want to and can operate centers, where we can help them as a governance system, to fund it to buy 10 MRI machines, and we can do that across American, and the cost of MRI would decrease, as well as the cost to produce these MRI units would decrease, and the process of doing these things creates "work" = JOBS !!!!" Thus so, we get the "double benefit" of lower Cost MRI, Med Professional get their to set up business, we create jobs, and we lower medical cost across the nation, we repeat in every state and every city, to eventually get to a point... We can have "Standardized MRI Screening" and save time and expense on all the "medical guesses", that result to people have surgeries they may not need, or being diagnosed with something that may not exist, and only show symptoms, because of some collateral ailment or issues.
"Ultra Sound"... we can have facilities that we can set up with 20 of these units, and major metros can have them set up in initial structure, that are "with a basic of 10 mile radius... where people no matter where they are, within no more than 10 miles there's a facility to provide this service.
It would cost us next to nothing, to help pay for those Medical Student School expense, for a commitment to operate these facilities for xx years. the same with the MRI... Then we also could do the same with various other medical tech units that are exaggerated in cost. These hospitals can charge these crazy cost, because they may be the only one with 1 or two units within a few hundred mile radius.
This is an example of building "A New System for Our Society" that works for all people.
We need to be able to step back and see the big picture and then we can learn how to fill in the details better,rather than sitting back, allowing the system which exist to bring a cost structure that is prohibitive and detrimental to the health of the people. We have to realize the systems we have today, are make-shift systems that were born from an era of a segregated society, where bigotry, bias and racist raged like a wild fire. We have to build where such things or put to rest, extinguished and made void, then we can build for a better America for Everyone.
There are many things we must come to review:
We can look again at what we make allowance and how we set limitations for Nurse Practitioners, and expand their capability of range, and they can handle a vast amount of the "general medical visits" for a variety of things that the general public goes to the doctor for, that is no a major event or incident; and this will bring down the cost of the average doctors visit, and check up and such things. This opens up for Doctors to stop claiming overworked, and stop gouging with high prices, because they cash in on being in limited numbers.. These changes would dramatically change the nature of how people are helped in their medical needs.
Then we look at Pharmaceuticals, and we take responsibility for the Government Grant Money these Drug Makers Get and Use, and how they use Government Grant Backed University Programs to do the research, and then they want to have a 20+ yrs Patent on the drug, that OUR TAX MONEY HELPED DEVELOP... No... WE HAVE A SYSTEM, that establishes cost of the produced drug, Not the Drug Company, and they get a 5 yr, Patent, and within the Third Year of that patent, a Generic can be produced to help manage cost but bring in Generic Competition. The Drug Company is still going to make a profit, but they won't be stressing out American People, while many of them set up shop on Foreign Shores and mass produce this stuff for next to nothing, and ship it back here and charge us a fortune.
We mandate, they cannot produce it Off Shore for the first 3 yrs of that Patent. Then we again, create jobs here and we at the same time improve our "export sales".
We have to learn how to think different, and see the American Absurdity in how we currently operate. Then we change the paradigm. This is what a real American First Looks like.. It is not protectionism in the sense of being negative, it is a matter of stabilizing our operations. We can easily set up... in Foreign Countries means to promote wide spread sales in a cost managable method, because, "mass production, always lowers the production cost", thus we can then afford to send it to countries at a price model that fits with their society and still realize a profit.
We have to get over the Greed Models... Or Trying to make 300% and get back to sustainable reality, of 30%-40%-50% and in some items there will be a 60% ... but all this massive greed chasing of 300-3000% has caused chaos here in American and also transfers a fortune to foreign nation, while it also spread despair and deterioration in every category of not just American but many other countries. Because such greed, centers the money in the hands of a few at the expense of Many.
We along with the British, and many of the Nordic Regions created these Greed Models many Centuries ago, and over the vast number of decades, we have refused to make changes, because the few who profit heavily, fight to keep the profit in their hands, at the greater expense of all of us, standing around watching "unemployment circle the globe", all so a few people can claim to be the owners of double and triple digit Billions.
Everyone stands around whining with some made song of Wealth Re-Distribution is wrong... when fact is, No one is trying to take money from the wealthy.. The Point is to tell them of their Responsibility to "Re-Invest, because it is a functioning system, that enabled them to gain wealth, then respect the system, by "re-investing in the system".
Right Now, we watch people run companies in the ground, while a few at the top who are not original owners, only "hired employees, in the executive capacity"... We should not be giving them 10's and 100's of Million while employees in some some sectors are barely making a living and some must rely on public assistance after working 40hrs a week. (its as if the company relies on the government to make up the shortage based on the low wage they pay, while the company claim high profits every 3 months), then they have the audacity to give the executive 'stock options" and a bonus.
That's "American Absurdity".... CEO are treated as if they are like to old time Plantation owners.. just ranking in profit just for having the title.
It is no way, that any company, especially one traded publicly, should ever allow millions of shares of stock options to be given to a CEO. He is paid enough, if he wants stock, buy it on the open market, just like every other employee has to do. and any yearly Bonus would never exceed the amount of the lowest paid employees yearly salary. People forget these company are publicly traded, and the CEO is an employee, not the owner/creator of the company in many cases of public traded companies.
We have to wake up and change... the Absurdity of the system as it is, has a massive imbalance in society, with a damaging gap between the wealthy and the working class, which is detrimental to the general working class segments of society.
Also, any Medical Plan that the CEO gets is and will be the exact same as what employees get. No more Golden Parachutes, and if they don't like the deal... go work some other place.
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If some of the people have not figured out what I'm talking about by now... as to "the broad concepts" of what is "American Absurdity".... then, that's on them.
I've addressed a variety of things, from Outsourcing, Jobs losses, Product Development, Banking, Small Business Development. American peoples ingenuity and creativity, to Rural Areas and Inner City, Broken Down Cities, to Farming, to Selective Specialty Farming, and ... on to and including things of crime and other such elements that fit within the spectrum of "Absurdity"... and all some can do is focus on the writer, trying to push their summary of what they think about the write, but have not addressed or can't see broad enough to address any of the multiple variables, contained in the thread. Some went stone off their rocker, when they saw the word "Trump" and there is praise connected to it..... And others can't see beyond one item to get hung up on. None have offered up anything that is an issue that must be acknowledged and addressed to consider what elements that need to be improved to improve society.
Basically people are sitting around with a single hope that one man is going to wave a magic wand, and some mega company is going to come and suddenly save America and make them well to do. "That's an Absurdity....."
Obama told people all the things that could help rebuild this country, but all some could see was his skin, and many became so fear filled, with the fear that they could no longer cling to the delusion of white superiority, they fought like hell, trying to discredit him; all for the sake of the fears they have of losing a concept of fiction of white superiority and white privilege, and some still have not figured out, that such fiction has not improved their lives and conditions in 100's of years.
What President Obama, said... 'was, he could not do it alone, that it would take all of us"... people fought that like mad men and fools, and then Trump comes and tell them... "I alone, Am the ONLY one who can fix American", and they fall allover themselves in a foolish fit. and he has violated every ethic that he could find, lied about anything that he can find that will "get a spin in the media", and has absolutely no structured plan to do anything, other than push bigotry, display belligerence, and try and spin confusion and create drama as a deflection, while he sets the stage for enriching himself and those of like stature.
They sit and watched him denigrate the Global Allies that it took decades upon decades to build and maintain those relationships... and he get on the International Stage, whining about "money"... when other nations are talking about matter, concerns and issues that improve International Diplomacy.
Some of the same ones or type will come back with a litany of commentary about the writer, and still not a word to acknowledge the matters, concerns and elements that are necessary to be addressed in society to move us forward as a nation and society of multi-cultural people.
But there are some on here that understand what I'm talking about, as well as the value basis of acknowledging things that impede us from the progress this nation desperately needs.
Bashing me will gain you absolutely nothing, because I will continue writing post to talk about any aspect of things that I find interest to talk about.
Those who find it as commentary shared that might prompt them to research and look into things, they will benefit from commentary, because they will explore to purse more information about a multitude of things, others will spin in their circle of trying to caption and contain something, they have absolutely no control over.
America did not decline by itself, it did so with the full participation of those that don't think to see the mess they make and how they defeat themselves, until it circle back and encompass them... then they get lost in some fiction of thinking that "someone is going to come and save them"... When fact is, who the hell can save one from themselves, when they are their own worst enemy. they choose denial to appease their fears that they won't admit they have. And some seek to recreate a delusional image concept of the past, which basically demonstrated overtly their own foolishness and how their vanity and ego led them into a madness of racism and bigotry, bias and haughtiness, that simply blinded them from the damages they do unto themselves, while they seek to enact such damages upon and against others.
That's within what is "American Absurdity".....
Not only do we not even have not one "bullet train", we can't even fix and maintain roads that were built by generations who came before us. we can't even keep our cities from going bankrupt, and fight against funding our school, which is a system that is nearly as old as America, since the Constitution Declared it to be America.
We have a society that is so vain, greedy and filled with every kind of envy, that it can't even come to terms with the basic need of affordable health care, to know health of the people, is a national security concern. A sick nation cannot prosper, when it can't even afford the medical care to help itself.
We should have absolutely no poverty in the land of America, but the long history of racism, bias and bigotry wrapped in and chasing greed and vanity, has expanding poverty from one coast to the next. And history shows, this nation has Squandered "Trillion upon Trillions of Dollars" over and over and over.... to the point it went from being the most dominant industrial nation on the planet, to one that has amassed 20 Trillion of Debt, and still paying people wages as if they can't digest paying any more than it cost to house and feed a slave... Yet, we want to make claim of having such a high standard of living, because we see some fiction in TV Shows and Movies... "That's Absurdity".
We once had a system where State University was of design to accommodate the American young people, but racism drove that into the ground from a resentment and envy to try and make difficult for minorities to gain economic parity and the gain of knowledge and credentials via the Low Cost University System. It turned into exactly what was part of the plan, and that was to make difficult for the poor whites equally the same, as they were considered as nothing more than acceptable collateral damage.
That is the same ideal Trump pushed with Health care, the millions of poor whites that the Republican Plan would have damaged, is considered nothing more than "acceptable levels of collateral damage" in the process to extract devastation upon the poor black society. The trick'er this time, is when it came to the door steps of the Right Winger working poor whites, and they found out how they were about to be devastated, they rose up... not because they cared about others, but because they cared about what was about to happen to themselves.
Its no different than the many decades they fought against national health care... "as long as they had for themselves, job sponsored health care", but when the economy crashed and job losses were in the 100's of thousands a month, then and only then did they find want and need to support the law that established ACA.
Before its all shaken out, we will be right back to the Mandates, because we should be able to see that, with all the people whining about paying, and claiming they don't want to pay to help those who don't pay. So, the resolve is, "mandates" and "subsidies". Then comes the negotiation that put the caps and controls on medical services and Insurance premium and bring down the cost of yearly out of pocket expenses.
One Senator has already hit on the point I addressed previously and in the preceding post, about the volume of government money that backs the Pharmaceuticals, and that is going to force lowered cost.
The truth has to back to forefront, that the real level of American Poverty, and what is the functional level of Middle Class income. It won't be just the group that is university degree riders and merchants and specialty professions, it has to become the mass of the 'general working society" and that has to be pegged upwards to accommodate the basic that move us forward. The $10-$15 minimum wage has to become the standard, and in establishing such, we have to maintain and contain inflation at a .001% growth level... The Fed have loaned banks money at "0%" and even at "negative interest rates for more than a decades... therefore, that means... the vested interest the government has to maintain lowered cost and minimize inflation is a core concern. They will began to dispense the Trillions they have back into the economy.... but they have to do it carefully and in a well managed method. but there are many other things it has to put in place within doing so.
the level of "circulation it will take for money to spin" is very high, which means vehicles have to be designed to get this money back in the system and working. This is elements that President Obama's Administrative invested a great deal of time, energy and resources to strategize, It takes time for such things to take and make shape. Trump will try and take credit, but those who know, know ... that as its been the long history that it takes time for such thing put in motion to take and show its shape, and many will know that the designs came from the Obama administration.
The wealthy have fought it by every means, even the presence of Trump is as a tool to try and forestall the inevitable.
Because the wealthy have not wanted to see the working poor whites rise, because it means that the minorities also rise. But now... the wide spread devastation is such, that that plan has to be dispensed with, and We all must rise, or we all crash.... together.
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Thank you for the compliment. but, sorry, I study this stuff and have done so for decades, and I certainly can write more in 10 minutes than some may write in a day.... if you have a problem with that. Maybe you should invest time in writing if your envy and resentment is that great.
.... just saying !!!!!
"American Absurdity"..... How media imagery shaped so much of the concepts in American life.... "the Media" and Advertising. These ad's show a system and history of Marketing without a conscience of the damages the ad's promote promoted to the cultural influences upon society. Even today, we have advertisements, that make people feel "depressed about their lives and themselves, when they don't fit the imagery, and find the fictional "shiny happy" pretense that is depicted in commercials. It is better you find your happiness in how you build friendships, how you find ways to appreciate the people in your lives, and enjoy what you have, not whether it is a "fad items', but how is it useful and beneficial to you in your daily life. You might find you waste less time and money going out chasing what is Advertisements and looking for the delusions that Marketing promotes.
Imagery that tells Americans to "be careful" how you allow media advertising to influence you. It is far better to find out who you are from "within yourself, as to what is your values, how to do your respect and treat society, as well as youself. How you shape the image of "yourself" should never rely on "media advertisements" to influence whom you are, and how you want to be as a "human being".
Sadly, to this very day, so much of society is still allowing Media Marketing to tell them"how to be", "how to measure themselves" and promoting standards, that are not in the best interest of Over-all society. Today, we have everything throw at society, from "Pills" of every sort, with every kind of claim, with a list of side effects longer than the claim they promote it serves, as if we are medical professionals to know more and better. None of them tell us, the truth that a "side effect" can kill you, as well as a "side effect" can become a "full effect", requiring yet another set of pills.
We need to use our Brains... Think.... and learn how to be an "Individual", because you want to be of good character, and honorable standing. Then learn it within yourself, and treat others as you want to be treated. Go read the principles that the Bible Teaches.
If nothing else, far more than allowed Advertisement telling you how to live, it might be better to think of the Bible in these terms of how to live might help some. B. (Basic) I. (Instructions) B. (Before) L. (Leaving) E. (Earth) It is a great Book, that addressing value based ideals that help one live a life that is not driven by Media advertisements.
example: my car is 17 yrs old, but "I like It", I keep it maintained, cleaned and I don't drive it in ways that damage it. Yes, I find some new car ads to show pretty cars, but I realize, my car serves the purpose to get me where I want to go, it is kept in good condition, I have no had a car payment in 20 yrs, so I can afford to fix what goes wrong with it, even with previous cars... I had the same positive benefits, of long terms without car payments. The cars were kept in good condition. I use to change computers every time a new generation came out, and the same I use to buy all kinds of software, until I figured out, I can use the ones I have and do many of the things I want and have time to do with a computer. Today, it is unlikely to find the kind of car one wants that is durable, for less than $500 a month, sometimes that is with insurance, and something that is without insurance. I know people who spend easily $1000 a month, on car and insurance, and they have not even put fuel in it. I do grasp the fact, some people can afford it. As well as I understand many people "have to buy" cars to help the car industry to survive and sustain itself, I am not opposed to "new car sales"... it just may not fit the income of everyone to do so. You have to figure out what works best for "you".. more than worrying about the image of what others think about what you have or what you drive.
I go and read up on any prescription a doctors give me. I don't go ask for the latest advertised drugs, I expect the doctor should know what is an appropriate drug to prescribe, and I follow up with reading about it. I then ask questions about the "standardized dosage", since doctors tell us, "that everyone is different", then why is everyone getting "similar dosages". Thus so... I've found at times, the doctor may tell me, "only take half" and lets check it in two weeks. It has helped from being "over-medicated". In some instance, they may increase the dosage, but as least I ask... so as to be actively informed as to what I should reasonably expect.
I read the labels of "food" in the stores, and some things, I just can't understanding why I need "10 different ingredients in a cookie" or a such things, so the more ingredients it list, the less I am inclined to buy it. The more words that are a challenge to pronounce, the less inclined I am to purchase it.
I asked recently, "where does the "ORGANIC" vegetables come from" Are they Local?, and the Stores Vegetable section employee could not answer the questions.
We have become a society that "Falls for the Marketing Commentary" and "The Advertising Saturation", and often have less understanding about what we purchase. We will often "over pay" because of name brand, whether it on a product, or the name of the store that sells it. Yet, when it comes to clothes, many of them are made by the same hands, in the same Chinese Factories... and anybody with enough money can have their label put on any model they choose. Often the Manufacture may produce 10 or more Models, and depending on the money one has, they can buy a line and have their name put on it.
When we become more aware... we might even learn the need for "Small Business Growth and Development" in some areas, expecially in Non Medical and other types of products. IF WE INVEST TO DO THE RESEARCH....
We live in the "Age of Information"... we should not forget that, and become people who pursue good information, before we make choices.... it might help us in ways we never imagined.
Don't be hoodwinked by "American Absurdity" - Seek out Information and help shape and make your own life better "for yourself" !!!
Think!!!!! During the Era of Segregation, many people supported it, never knowing why, except it was what everyone else was doing... Then when the Law Said it was Illegal, suddenly many people, then found out, that they did not have to have a segregationist mindset, and many people changed... and no longer sought to promote segregation. IF those people had thought for themselves, and ask themselves, would they want to be ill treated and pushed back, would they like it, they would have found in themselves, no need or reason to promote segregation. So... in the "Age of Information"... learn to think for yourself... You might find your life is made happier as in being yourself and being comfortable with yourself as "your own self". We might find we have "less Bullying", "less children committing suicide", and "less people claiming depressions" and we might find that we have more people, "interacting with other people, and being of acceptance of themselves and others and engaging their lives in ways that 'share their experiences of living with others" without measuring each other by material objects, and trying to emulate imagery as seen in Advertising. You women may find out, that everyone is not built to be "rail thin"... and people may find they need not become anorexic, trying to fit an image, that is not their natural self.
We might find young and older alike might not be injecting artificial substances in their bodies trying to use plastic surgery to be and look ways that is not natural to whom they are... More people might just become to learn better how to "appreciate themselves as an individual" - What matters, is, Are You Neat and Clean, and Do you manage what you put in your body, and do you make effort to be interactive in life.
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Where I work I see so few modern day Immigrants, many of the people if they are from immigrant status, they have been in the country for decades, and are likely second generation, maybe even third.
I don't see it as a major matter, I see the need for U.S, as a whole to develop a new mindset and learn from the Immigrants. In many Immigrants as in many lands, people don't grow up with the single Idea of "go get a job", they grow up with thinking how to "create business". We can't deny that fact, we when we see so many immigrant who become small business owners. How and where they get the start up money, I don't know. but even when living on the West Coast, I saw many who created small businesses.
Now, I did have concern about the method that this country helps "refugees" to a level far and above what any American could ever get. I am not saying don't help the refugees", but make some of those same provision available to American people as well.
Good example is we have many "depressed areas' that are in need of small business growth. We won't help them, whether it is the Midwest and various Rural Areas or even inner cities whether its poor minorities or poor whites.
They can't get small business loans...
We saw how well it worked writing mortgages for houses idiots knowingly or arrogantly knew they couldn't pay off. Let's give out half a million to a million dollar loans out and see how well it works.
Adressing immigrants, they aren't lazy, they have felt hunger, and they don't want to feel it again, they have personal incentive to achieve success where our culture has been coddled and pondered to with the expectation that success should be given because life is hard... I could tell you about close friends who came here from Belarus with just 2 suit cases and enough money to secure a scummy apartment, and how today their net worth excluding their business is in the 10s of millions.
On the contrary I can give you examples of kids who grew up with mom and dad paying their way and never said no to wind up flat broke and over their eyeballs in debt. 2 different mentalities. One was sheltered and never had to really apply themself the other felt hunger pains and vowed to never quit.
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and they certainly can't get one that helps them set up, and give them 5 yrs of "no tax", and then get interest home loans. We have many areas with "American Small Businesses" struggling, and they get barely nothing the help them uplift their business, or programs that help other enterprising people to get their business up and going.
The overhead is very steep for many who want to do various business. When I first moved here, the banker employee told me, she was of desire to start a business, but the start up cost were more than she could handle, but the banks does not give loans to start up's.
AND RIGHTFULLY SO! THEY ASSESS RISK WHEN WRITING A LOAN!
I don't care if you're a Baker a Mechanic a Welder whatever else you can draft up.
Why should a bank just fund massive amounts of money to a risky start up when the person who's seeking the loan doesn't have the equity behind them for if/when they fail, to pay the loan off? There's insurance, payroll, taxes, all sorts of things to be taken into consideration like the competitor across town who's been established for the last 5-20 years...
Are you daft?
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I invested in a business design to help other small business to get set up, and had my plan approved by SBA, and invested my own money, but could not secure funding to push it forward at the points when the economy was struggling as a whole. When the $19 Billion was given to SBA to help business keep their doors open, that money was dispensed to the larger small businesses - by the time it came to the lower level of start up, that fund was depleted.
Yeah, let the established business who employs more than 20 close up shop, and run to a small start up that has no reputation or capacity to employ seasoned knowledgeable employees. That's brilliant...
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I had a long conversation with SBA, as to why they did not develop their own lending program for the small start up business after they review the Business Plan and give their approval. Not only did they not have such, they don't write letters of recommendation either.
America was built by "small businesses" and to rebuild American, we will have to find means to give focus to small business start ups. It does not matter if its "farming', or select product line farming, to a range of small builders and creators who make unique things. The best options some get is the annual participation in "Farmers Market", which often present a wide variety of unique products that people develop, but they can't get their business off the ground, usually due to lack of funding sources.
I started my business up with my own cash no bank.
How? I didn't punch out at 5pm like everyone else did. I sold off some stuff for profit at that, put my money into investments to grow, cashed out, I didn't go on a hiring spree or a ridiculous spending spree to buy everything at once
Whatever my profits are, go back into equipment and operational expenses. Reputation grows, customer base grows. A loan would be useful. But I don't sleep well knowing the bank owns something and I just pay to use it at any % until the note is paid for. I buy as much as I can with cash. It's mine, I own it. No lien to satisfy if I fail... no forfeiture or repossession if I fail. Something that start ups often over look.
Your fatal flaw is the "participation trophy" where everyone gets a medal to be fair.
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The good thing with small business include many positives, including the kids of the business owner learning responsibility, being involved in the business growth and development and learning. I see many "handy man services" and some are very highly skilled individuals, but they can't grow their business because there is an overhead in cost that often put them at a disadvantage. Some simply have gone to the "oil fields", "and during the natural gas boom, some went there, but found a lot of that work was short lived, when the price of gas stabilized at a nominal level.
WELL NO CHIT! Perhaps they should research it before they dive head first into a loan
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The clip about "The Poorest Town in Every State" is truly a sad reality... but within those towns, the people still matter, and within some of all such towns across American, there are creative people, who can be inspired if there is some means to help and assist them in their endeavors... These towns should not have to be held in stagnation, with only one option such as "waiting for some megal company to come and save them. Often times, that is not going to happen, because the degree riders who make such decisions of location, do not give much focus to these towns. Then some areas after a certain level of being stagnant for a very long time, do not become viable options that they would consider. Thus so, this is where the need for "small business development" comes as a lifeline to growth.
Many States have the ability to structure policy and manage regulations that help these localities to start up, IF there was funding available. Even Venture Capitalist often function in the vacuum of select industry, and often that is located in Major Prospering Metro's.. We have some cities that are functioning but not even near capacity, which has many "industrial sites" that could be utilized before they reach a level of deterioration and become too costly to retrofit.
Locally, we seen many location that don't get the push or the ideas that can make use of that space, and the Cost Lost of it sitting empty has a lifespan, and beyond that lifespan of being empty, it become harder to market it and often their are not enough programs to promote it.
Uhh... it makes sense to have brand new for less than to rebuild for more.... example.
I looked at a place CBS constructed shop with an acre of property fenced in. 850k
I can buy 3 acres at 60k, zoned commercial/industrial, have a slab poured, fence erected, and steel building, insulated, complete with air condition twice the size of the CBS shop, all together for 500k.
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We Exported so Much so Fast.... and many of the mega companies in Foreign Lands, have figured out how to make benefit of the small business, some make supply chain components for the big factories, and over time those small business prosper and grow. We've seen that cycle multiplied tremendously in Asian countries.
Even when it comes to Foreign Locations that have become Major Industrial Manufacturing, we have not made effort to take advantage of the "Sister City Programming', which could be a link to attract investment from those various hubs. We allowed the HB1 Visa program, to omit many of the struggling areas, of which the program had provision to support Rural and depressed areas, but somehow, that program resulted to benefit people in Major Metro's but not in the rural areas and the challenged sections of our massive inner city areas that struggle all across this country.
Different areas, different demands. What works in the city won't in the sticks. No matter how many times you beat that dead horse cityiots still feel different as their will can be pushed onto others. You see, unlike a cityiot who needs to consume the services of blue collar workers, in the sticks, folks are alot more self sufficient...
They don't have city sewer and water... they have their own wells their own septic system to maintain. And do.
They don't live in overpriced apartment complexes fancily titled "penthouse" with a maintenance staff to maintain the premises.
They own their own land and house. They maintain it themselves to keep costs of maintenance down... their furnace dies and its 10 below out, they'll attempt to get it up and running again. They don't have a superintendent to phone up at 2 am I don't have heat!
As for the inner city, blame employers demanding the incessant need for a college education And for hiring penny pinching business school grads who somehow managed to trip over 100 dollar bills to pick up pennies and see on the job training as an evil expense that also hurts "production"
3 days a week I play ford mechanic. I fight more with an ignorant business school graduate service manager who couldn't fix a sandwich let alone a wheel barrow, dictate to others in the shop how things should be done... Micro manage doesn't work. Prolongs everything, cuts production, and the incessant worry of the almighty "bottom line" sets the whole place backwards. Nope no incentive to supply essential SSTs because they'll get damaged or stolen... uhh... it's a write off dingus... so I buy it. I'm not loaning it out. Raises my costs. Fine. But when your UTI graduate wet behind the ears comes over asking to borrow it. Nope. Buy your own. And when that vehicle sits in their Bay because I won't play nice. You failed as the boss giving someone something out of their league to begin with. Wouldn't be a problem had you as the boss bought that tool that's commonly used for everyone to utilise in the shop...
And why do I play ford mechanic for 3 days a week. No rust. 50 60 hours sometimes 75 depending. I don't punch out at 5. Shops open til 8pm every night for the quicklane kids to do 19.99 works packages. Lights are still on, doors are still open. Philosophy is end of the week should be easy. No. It shouldnt. Should be going as hard on Friday as we do Monday. Think I'm coming in on Thursday or Friday to be bothered with overflow of works packages alignments and other BS nonsense? You must be silly.
.4 oil changes when it takes .2 just to locate the vehicle. Nope. Does it say sucker on my forehead?
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We could be training people in producing the things we utilize, such as basic stuff... Why don't we have course anymore such as existed long ago, "Future Farmers of America", "Shoe Makers", "Shirt Makers" and even look at how we can again become a maker of the same Appliance we use in our homes. We will never be able to compete, if we don't start... again to build and make these things. Technology is available today that can usher us into commodities of many types, become the models and systems exist... but the issue is "training people in various skill development", catalog usable facilities that can be put into a "cost manageable lease structure for start ups", "Tax Modification where they have time to build and modify and grow". We have models we can use "All Across America", such as the model that New York Utilizes This can be modified to meet State and county needs as to how it works. Then we need a "Funding Vehicle".
Instead of our Government Throwing money into various things that consume resources with limited benefit, we can re-direct funding, into growth and independence building programs", such as small business start ups.
WRONG AGAIN SUNSHINE
Blame your public school system that preaches you need a college degree to inherit an outstanding debt before gaining expirience and taking on lowly internship positions at 20-40k per year plus cost of living expenses and student loans...
Why don't we manufacture our goods anymore? Thank your EPA for going after manufacturing. Thank unions who lawyer up against employers and make ridiculous demands for wages. Sorry nobody at Ford is worth paying 90 bucks an hour on the production line. 20-30 is realistic. UAW is partial to blame in the automotive field.
So therefore we open up sweatshops over seas due to overhead and regulation.
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If I had a family living on Federal program funds, such as Section 8- Food Stamps and a conglomeration of other funds, and I estimate that family to be locked into this for 5 yrs, that has a cost figure. why not factor that cost figure, and then do some math and see what is an available cost figure it would be to fund them for training to do start up business, to have it stable and independent within less than that proposed 5 yr span of reliance on benefits. Then we'd have those families set up in something that can grow, but at the same time, their kids are involved, so they learn business and responsibility, and the kids don't become an extension of yet another family stuck on Public assistance for another 5 yrs or so, and on and on and on...
How about get them a livable wage in a field first... before writing loans for massive money to a bunch of gimme dats. Become fiscally responsible first and foremost...
Your utopia would bankrupt a country within months...
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We have to think different!!!! but first American people have to get over their animosity at seeing other American get help and assistance that truly can uplift them. Instead we rather sit back, and continually complain about the expanding benefit users, rather than get over the resentment at seeing others helped up. to become independent.
Voluntary charity is fine, making it mandatory and easily abusable is beyond stupid, perhaps you didn't go to school with someone who couldn't deal with intern pay and decide it would be easier to jump on the dole and play the system. I do. 3 to be exact. Each of them doing the math, make between 50 and 75k all in federal and NY state aid benefits which were designed to hold one over for a short period of time... no initiative to succeed just sit at home and play within the rules.
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We do exactly that type of help and assistance for Refugees, but we won't do it for American people.
American Absurdity.... is costing us tremendously and the losses of the human potential cost us even more that we have no idea how to factor the loss, and the cost of lost opportunities, as well as the stagnated creativity that exist within the American population.
No, lack of ambition, and dumb life choices are what's creating stagnant layabouts with their hands out. Because it's easier to cry and whine than it is to lace up work boots and go trade blood sweat and hours for dollars. Instant gratification the "I'm educated and entitled to 50k-70k per year (but I lack years of actual hands on expirience)" mentality hammered into brains from highschool and college...
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Everyone does not have wealthy parents, or a system of wealth resource to give them a leg up, or connect them in family ties business, or options to get and move to a level where they can put their talent and skills into small business development.
We need to realize the value of Small Business and what it means to Rebuilding America. It's absurd, that all our scholars have no concern to review the basic history and re-learn the truth of how American grew and developed in the first place.
LOL I had wealthy parents. I was their indentured slave. I took advantage of "staying after school" to hang out at friends houses get close to their fathers who owned businesses in skilled trades, and worked for them in various skilled trades, asked questions applied myself through out highschool. My parents didn't fund jack. In their eyes my labor at their businesses earned the privilege to live under their roof... that's how at 20 without jumping into college right after highschool, tough it out for 2 years working and hording money only to spend it on tangible things there was a strong desire for and folks willing to pay through the nose for... propelled me into a house of my own at 20 and college paid for up front in cash
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We get stuck relying only on the Wealthy Industrialist to come and save us, and they have long ago, chosen to move their operations to Foreign Soils, and we still have even more to this very day, moving to foreign locations...
It's "wake up time" !!! Small Business builds nations... and that is exactly how American once grew its economic system to become a one great Industrial Power.
You are mind numbingly dumb if you spent decades of research and never correlated taxes and regulations raising overhead forcing industries to seek out off shore sweatshops...
You're posts are chock full of emotional tirades with opinion on how things should be done in a liberal utopia, Trump be damned!
Only absurdity I see, comes from the philosophy you spew which is give and give and make life easier at the expense of the "evil banks"
About the only thing you have correct is small business being the back bone of the Nation. I hope you stick to these bandwidth consuming incessant whiney rants for a living-being paid by the word, and have nothing to do with writing loans... your philosophy of starting a business is one modeled after welfare...
We saw how well it worked writing mortgages for houses idiots knowingly or arrogantly knew they couldn't pay off. Let's give out half a million to a million dollar loans out and see how well it works.
You should learn more about who traded up, and who bought with aims to flip... before you push that too far.
Adressing immigrants, they aren't lazy, they have felt hunger, and they don't want to feel it again, they have personal incentive to achieve success where our culture has been coddled and pondered to with the expectation that success should be given because life is hard... I could tell you about close friends who came here from Belarus with just 2 suit cases and enough money to secure a scummy apartment, and how today their net worth excluding their business is in the 10s of millions.
On the contrary I can give you examples of kids who grew up with mom and dad paying their way and never said no to wind up flat broke and over their eyeballs in debt. 2 different mentalities. One was sheltered and never had to really apply themself the other felt hunger pains and vowed to never quit.
People are individuals, as I've already written position commentary about immigrant ideology that is of many differences in how they function. America teaches people to grow up and get a job, many immigrants come to America with a how to start a business mentality... therefore you are not saying anything I've not said multiple times in a variety of post.
AND RIGHTFULLY SO! THEY ASSESS RISK WHEN WRITING A LOAN!
I don't care if you're a Baker a Mechanic a Welder whatever else you can draft up.
Why should a bank just fund massive amounts of money to a risky start up when the person who's seeking the loan doesn't have the equity behind them for if/when they fail, to pay the loan off? There's insurance, payroll, taxes, all sorts of things to be taken into consideration like the competitor across town who's been established for the last 5-20 years...
Are you daft?
We already discussed this previously.
Yeah, let the established business who employs more than 20 close up shop, and run to a small start up that has no reputation or capacity to employ seasoned knowledgeable employees. That's brilliant...
If that's the limits of you thinking, I chose not to embrace such limitations in my thought.
I started my business up with my own cash no bank.
How? I didn't punch out at 5pm like everyone else did. I sold off some stuff for profit at that, put my money into investments to grow, cashed out, I didn't go on a hiring spree or a ridiculous spending spree to buy everything at once "don't grandstand...everyone is not you, nor will everyone be like you"
Whatever my profits are, go back into equipment and operational expenses. Reputation grows, customer base grows. A loan would be useful. But I don't sleep well knowing the bank owns something and I just pay to use it at any % until the note is paid for. I buy as much as I can with cash. It's mine, I own it. No lien to satisfy if I fail... no forfeiture or repossession if I fail. Something that start ups often over look.
Your fatal flaw is the "participation trophy" where everyone gets a medal to be fair. "Stop overly patronizing yourself, at the aim to denigrate others"
WELL NO CHIT! Perhaps they should research it before they dive head first into a loan
Uhh... it makes sense to have brand new for less than to rebuild for more.... example.
I looked at a place CBS constructed shop with an acre of property fenced in. 850k
I can buy 3 acres at 60k, zoned commercial/industrial, have a slab poured, fence erected, and steel building, insulated, complete with air condition twice the size of the CBS shop, all together for 500k.
"nothing wrong with shopping for a location that suits, you.. others see or may see location in a different sense of valuation based on what they want to do and what they can do"... comparison in all cases, is not necessary, it does not make you smarter than the other, it only means you made a different choice for different reasons.
Different areas, different demands. What works in the city won't in the sticks. No matter how many times you beat that dead horse cityiots still feel different as their will can be pushed onto others. You see, unlike a cityiot who needs to consume the services of blue collar workers, in the sticks, folks are alot more self sufficient...
They don't have city sewer and water... they have their own wells their own septic system to maintain. And do.
They don't live in overpriced apartment complexes fancily titled "penthouse" with a maintenance staff to maintain the premises.
"people can and people do, make their choices of what they want to life in and what standard they want to aspire to", you are not the one who determines that, for them, only for yourself".
They own their own land and house. They maintain it themselves to keep costs of maintenance down... their furnace dies and its 10 below out, they'll attempt to get it up and running again. They don't have a superintendent to phone up at 2 am I don't have heat!
As for the inner city, blame employers demanding the incessant need for a college education And for hiring penny pinching business school grads who somehow managed to trip over 100 dollar bills to pick up pennies and see on the job training as an evil expense that also hurts "production" "its that, and more to it than that, but you limite it to only seeing the elements you want, and ignoring a fare more elaborate system of elements.
3 days a week I play ford mechanic. I fight more with an ignorant business school graduate service manager who couldn't fix a sandwich let alone a wheel barrow, dictate to others in the shop how things should be done... Micro manage doesn't work. Prolongs everything, cuts production, and the incessant worry of the almighty "bottom line" sets the whole place backwards. Nope no incentive to supply essential SSTs because they'll get damaged or stolen... uhh... it's a write off dingus... so I buy it. I'm not loaning it out. Raises my costs. Fine. But when your UTI graduate wet behind the ears comes over asking to borrow it. Nope. Buy your own. And when that vehicle sits in their Bay because I won't play nice. You failed as the boss giving someone something out of their league to begin with. Wouldn't be a problem had you as the boss bought that tool that's commonly used for everyone to utilise in the shop...
And why do I play ford mechanic for 3 days a week. No rust. 50 60 hours sometimes 75 depending. I don't punch out at 5. Shops open til 8pm every night for the quicklane kids to do 19.99 works packages. Lights are still on, doors are still open. Philosophy is end of the week should be easy. No. It shouldnt. Should be going as hard on Friday as we do Monday. Think I'm coming in on Thursday or Friday to be bothered with overflow of works packages alignments and other BS nonsense? You must be silly.
.4 oil changes when it takes .2 just to locate the vehicle. Nope. Does it say sucker on my forehead?
different jobs and individual attitudes is much to do about many jobs. Everyone should look to see how it can be improved... but who is willing to work on improving it, is what does and will matter. We all have many complaints, no matter what the job or who we work for... Some work to resolve those complaints, some tolerate it, and some don'e even see things to complain about. and still others, go on and create their own business and build it to avoid the things they complained about.
WRONG AGAIN SUNSHINE
Blame your public school system that preaches you need a college degree to inherit an outstanding debt before gaining expirience and taking on lowly internship positions at 20-40k per year plus cost of living expenses and student loans...
I've already stated my thought about this. Many many times..
Why don't we manufacture our goods anymore? Thank your EPA for going after manufacturing. Thank unions who lawyer up against employers and make ridiculous demands for wages. Sorry nobody at Ford is worth paying 90 bucks an hour on the production line. 20-30 is realistic. UAW is partial to blame in the automotive field. " if that's the limit of you reasoning, in simple terms... We don't agree!!!"
So therefore we open up sweatshops over seas due to overhead and regulation.
How about get them a livable wage in a field first... before writing loans for massive money to a bunch of gimme dats. Become fiscally responsible first and foremost...
Your utopia would bankrupt a country within months...
We don't agree on points and principles that you've demonstrated an omission to consider"
Voluntary charity is fine, making it mandatory and easily abusable is beyond stupid, perhaps you didn't go to school with someone who couldn't deal with intern pay and decide it would be easier to jump on the dole and play the system. I do. 3 to be exact. Each of them doing the math, make between 50 and 75k all in federal and NY state aid benefits which were designed to hold one over for a short period of time... no initiative to succeed just sit at home and play within the rules.
I don't have time to rehash this point... you go with your thoughts, I'll stick with mine".
No, lack of ambition, and dumb life choices are what's creating stagnant layabouts with their hands out. Because it's easier to cry and whine than it is to lace up work boots and go trade blood sweat and hours for dollars. Instant gratification the "I'm educated and entitled to 50k-70k per year (but I lack years of actual hands on expirience)" mentality hammered into brains from highschool and college... "Everybody is not an arse and elbow's person, although that might surprise you.
LOL I had wealthy parents. I was their indentured slave. I took advantage of "staying after school" to hang out at friends houses get close to their fathers who owned businesses in skilled trades, and worked for them in various skilled trades, asked questions applied myself through out highschool. My parents didn't fund jack. In their eyes my labor at their businesses earned the privilege to live under their roof... that's how at 20 without jumping into college right after highschool, tough it out for 2 years working and hording money only to spend it on tangible things there was a strong desire for and folks willing to pay through the nose for... propelled me into a house of my own at 20 and college paid for up front in cash
"no comment... everybody grows up with their unique situations that are unique to them".
You are mind numbingly dumb if you spent decades of research and never correlated taxes and regulations raising overhead forcing industries to seek out off shore sweatshops...
You're posts are chock full of emotional tirades with opinion on how things should be done in a liberal utopia, Trump be damned!
Only absurdity I see, comes from the philosophy you spew which is give and give and make life easier at the expense of the "evil banks"
"you can have any opinion that you want"
About the only thing you have correct is small business being the back bone of the Nation. I hope you stick to these bandwidth consuming incessant whiney rants for a living-being paid by the word, and have nothing to do with writing loans... your philosophy of starting a business is one modeled after welfare...
"self control is probably something more suitable for the aims you are seeking, because you waste time trying to measure me as if you think I care what you think in such regards."
Good luck in what you do and how you do it....
Its more functional for me, to move along and continue to write about what I want to write about.
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I don't have heat!