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View Poll Results: America's failure or never let Trump win
I would rather the USA fail 3 4.55%
I want Trump to succeed 51 77.27%
America has never been great 12 18.18%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-08-2017, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Your poll is rigged. Trump is not America. I want to see Trump fail so America can succeed.

Are we clear, now...?

So what Trump initiatives do you want to see fail, so America can succeed?
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:40 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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To me, America's success can only be measured by the well-being of all the people.

It has never been perfect, but compared to the rest of the world it has been pretty good for a long time.

I see some frightening trends these days. It looks for all the world like the gap between the rich and poor is growing rapidly, and opportunities for average folks to better themselves are disappearing.

Everything is for sale and private interests come before community.

It looks like we are also setting up a permanent caste system: permanent underclasses and permanent over classes, everyone's potential limited by the size of their parent's portfolio. Free public education is being attacked, too 'socialist' it seems, although we have had this system almost since the country was founded. Some people I have met are attacking public libraries the same way!

I also do not like that this current president is pushing the process along in that very direction. We have never had so many billionaires at the top, the president's cabinet has several.

I do not like what I see, and although I am much older now, I do still worry for my grandchildren.
I don't know much about classical history, so I could be wrong. But as I recall, this sounds eerily similar to the later days of the Roman Republic. If Trump does make America great again, then a very literal "Yankee Imperialism" precisely of the Roman type and style will be a sign that America is great again - if you measure greatness only in terms of sheer raw power and ability to influence international affairs at least.

I wonder who's America's Julius Caesar, assuming he's already born.
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:48 AM
 
Location: SC
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Would you rather see the USA fail, over ever letting Donald Trump succeeding in his plan to Make America Great Again?
So the only choices in the poll support your position? Not a very good way to solicit all opinions and have open conversation. It is however a good way to try to convince people that your way is the only way - which of course is nonsense.
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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I don't know much about classical history, so I could be wrong. But as I recall, this sounds eerily similar to the later days of the Roman Republic. If Trump does make America great again, then a very literal "Yankee Imperialism" precisely of the Roman type and style will be a sign that America is great again - if you measure greatness only in terms of sheer raw power and ability to influence international affairs at least.

I wonder who's America's Julius Caesar, assuming he's already born.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...aesar-new-york

All the rhetoric about Caesar’s ambition, the danger he had posed to the republic, suddenly seemed worthless. There was only the horror of violence, the shock of it, even to the men and women who had plotted it and carried it out.

https://learningenglish.voanews.com/...m/3899101.html
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So what Trump initiatives do you want to see fail, so America can succeed?
I haven't seen one yet that I want to see implemented.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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Would you rather see the USA fail, over ever letting Donald Trump succeeding in his plan to Make America Great Again?
Refuse to answer because it is a loaded question and (hopefully) a false dichotomy.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If President fails, America fails.
If President succeeds, America succeeds.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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What a ridiculous set of choices for a poll.
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Old 08-08-2017, 05:00 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Would you rather see the USA fail, over ever letting Donald Trump succeeding in his plan to Make America Great Again?
Wow OP. How's that for a biased poll? Where's the "I want Donald to fail and then America can become great again" option?
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Old 08-08-2017, 05:09 PM
 
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Default Epic fail

So far over 800 views and 34 votes placed.
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