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Somewhere in this long thread I've answered this and included a link. Halal has loopholes (Kosher does not). I don't know where my original links are in the thread so I've found these links which one of them does answer your question but the website is anti-Islam. Between the two of them it should answer your question.
Basically if they say a prayer, the chicken is made allowable to eat. If I were Muslim and there were no locations to eat at, I would've ordered the fish with no condiments.
That isn't true. You are linking to a site that is against Halal food. In Islam, one may do that IF there is NO other food available. So one does not starve over Halal rules. It does not say if it's inconvenient.
Somewhere in this long thread I've answered this and included a link. Halal has loopholes (Kosher does not). I don't know where my original links are in the thread so I've found these links which one of them does answer your question but the website is anti-Islam. Between the two of them it should answer your question.
Basically if they say a prayer, the chicken is made allowable to eat. If I were Muslim and there were no locations to eat at, I would've ordered the fish with no condiments.
Ask 2 Jewish Scholars and get 3 different answers as the saying goes. My Jewish friend who studies and is working every day to be more and more observant says the answer to whether there are 'loopholes' is different depending on who you ask. And not all are so observant to begin with. As with Muslims. Only one of my Muslim friends won't eat pork. The rest of them cram it down like other good Americans! Only one observes Ramadan to the letter. (he really loves that first cigarette after sundown!)
If you cannot make a thread honestly, you should not make threads.
They ordered McChickens, which do not come with bacon. Someone put bacon on their food, or more accurately, someone tampered with their food and the absolute minimum thing that should happen to that person is be fired. Frankly, they should be charged with a crime. Tampering with someone's food isn't something that should be treated as meaningless. It doesn't matter if what they did was harmless, mainly because you can't know for sure if it was.
Imagine a diabetic goes to a movie theater, orders a diet soda, and the person gives them regular soda because they think diet soda is stupid. That diabetic is now in a coma. Because a server purposefully messed with their food.
And frankly, that's not even a fair example, because that feasibly could have been an accident. A tiny piece of bacon, suggesting it was meant to be hidden, in food that does not come with bacon does not have the same plausible deniability. Especially when it's multiple sandwiches.
Again, which employee did this should at the very least be fired, if not more. Frankly, I think a fine should be the minimum, and I wouldn't consider jail time unreasonable. Tampering with someones food isn't a joke. And making it about social justice, for it or against it, is missing a significantly more important point.
That isn't true. You are linking to a site that is against Halal food. In Islam, one may do that IF there is NO other food available. So one does not starve over Halal rules. It does not say if it's inconvenient.
You didn't bother to read what I typed.
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Originally Posted by Pruzhany
Somewhere in this long thread I've answered this and included a link. Halal has loopholes (Kosher does not). I don't know where my original links are in the thread so I've found these links which one of them does answer your question but the website is anti-Islam. Between the two of them it should answer your question.
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Basically if they say a prayer, the chicken is made allowable to eat. If I were Muslim and there were no locations to eat at, I would've ordered the fish with no condiments.
These so-called Muslims went to McDonalds because of convenience. I doubt they truly follow Halal. I doubt their version is reality as no one from the surrounding community who actually live there has come out and said anything. As the days go by, it becomes more evident that it didn't happen.
Even the one in England a few days before at a McDonalds has had no support from the community either.
If you cannot make a thread honestly, you should not make threads.
They ordered McChickens, which do not come with bacon. Someone put bacon on their food, or more accurately, someone tampered with their food and the absolute minimum thing that should happen to that person is be fired. Frankly, they should be charged with a crime. Tampering with someone's food isn't something that should be treated as meaningless. It doesn't matter if what they did was harmless, mainly because you can't know for sure if it was.
Imagine a diabetic goes to a movie theater, orders a diet soda, and the person gives them regular soda because they think diet soda is stupid. That diabetic is now in a coma. Because a server purposefully messed with their food.
And frankly, that's not even a fair example, because that feasibly could have been an accident. A tiny piece of bacon, suggesting it was meant to be hidden, in food that does not come with bacon does not have the same plausible deniability. Especially when it's multiple sandwiches.
Again, which employee did this should at the very least be fired, if not more. Frankly, I think a fine should be the minimum, and I wouldn't consider jail time unreasonable. Tampering with someones food isn't a joke. And making it about social justice, for it or against it, is missing a significantly more important point.
This poster is also putting up links to misinformation regarding Halal rules. I didn't bother with the second link, because I already know Halal rules. I did peek at the first one to see where the mis-information was coming from. It's a site that is against Halal food, and even goes so far as to mis-quote the Qu'ran to make it's case.
If fact, if you google this Sura, quoted from the Qu'ran, what you get is a whole page of hits from sites who seek to disallow it.
Surah 2:173 states:
If one is forced because there is no other choice, neither craving nor transgressing, there is no sin on him.
That Sura has no application here. It's completely irrelevant. The subject of what is and is not Halal is not relevant. They did NOT ask for Halal food. !
These so-called Muslims went to McDonalds because of convenience. I doubt they truly follow Halal. I doubt their version is reality as no one from the surrounding community who actually live there has come out and said anything. As the days go by, it becomes more evident that it didn't happen.
Even the one in England a few days before at a McDonalds has had no support from the community either.
It doesn't matter if they completely follow Halal. That is totally irrelevant. They merely wanted to avoid the worst extreme Haram regarding food. They didn't want to directly consume actual Haram food. Lordy!
So-called Muslims? all but one of the Muslims I know eat pork. That means they are not real Muslims?
This is another weird myth. That Muslims are either extremely devout or not really Muslims. THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN is total BS! Most people in all three major religions fall somewhere on a scale of observance. It's why there are terms like 'fundamentalist' and 'Orthodox' and 'Ultra-Orthodox' to describe the MINORITY of extremes. Christians are notorious for picking and choosing which sins are actually important! Lordy.
So-called Muslims? all but one of the Muslims I know eat pork. That means they are not real Muslims?
This is another weird myth. That Muslims are either extremely devout or not really Muslims. THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN is total BS! Most people in all three major religions fall somewhere on a scale of observance. It's why there are terms like 'fundamentalist' and 'Orthodox' and 'Ultra-Orthodox' to describe the MINORITY of extremes. Christians are notorious for picking and choosing which sins are actually important! Lordy.
These so-called Muslims went to McDonalds because of convenience. I doubt they truly follow Halal. I doubt their version is reality as no one from the surrounding community who actually live there has come out and said anything. As the days go by, it becomes more evident that it didn't happen.
Even the one in England a few days before at a McDonalds has had no support from the community either.
That one is stupid because it was an actual mistake and Muslims and Jews can not expect a non-Halal, non-Kosher place to never make an error that goes against someone's religion.
Now, if the people in the subject of the OP are doing a hoax for attention and made-up bigotry, then f them. But lacking evidence that is what happened, I am discussing the event as described.
Oh please. Let's not even go there. The point is that extreme adherence is not required to make one a 'real' Muslim.
Although the Taliban and AQ and ISIS would agree with the OP on that.
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