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Old 08-03-2017, 09:21 AM
Status: "“If a thing loves, it is infinite.”" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Great Britain
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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I have several combat veterans friends (every single one of them was MARSOC) committed suicide. They were not selfish, they were sick.
I edited my post because I am not attempting to be inflammatory. I do think that some of the suicides committed by the very young military enlistees is partly because they have not learned to deal with difficult situations as adults.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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Depends on what culture you are in. In some its respected..

Why drain away your families resources when terminal?
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I edited my post because I am not attempting to be inflammatory. I do think that some of the suicides committed by the very young military enlistees is partly because they have not learned to deal with difficult situations as adults.
Some, but not all.

Some committed suicide because of their PTSD. It has nothing to do with dealing with "difficult situation". My friend could tolerate pain, believe me. His leg was blown off, he didn't even cry!
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:28 AM
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Military Vets are not the only Vets with a high suicide rate, whilst dentists are also up there with doctors and of course farmers and socially isolated people also have far higher rates of suicide, as do police officer, ex-military and numerous other professions.

BBC NEWS | Health | Vet suicides outstrip UK average

Veterinary suicide: 'It is my passion and my poison' | Central - ITV News

Suicide in veterinary medicine: Let's talk about it - NCBI - NIH

These people are often very intelligent and hard working, and are certainly not weasels.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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This is a troll thread. It's still very offensive. I have had a brother and sister commit suicide. It is not joking matter. The carnage they left behind is very real. They both had massive issues and we are left feeling guilty although it was not from a lack of trying. They just saw no way out. I don't think they are cowards. They just didn't have the proper tools to get fixed. They tried though. So if you think they are cowards, what does that make you?
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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Some, but not all.

Some committed suicide because of their PTSD. It has nothing to do with dealing with "difficult situation"
Many long time hardened military veterans have their own view of PTSD and think it is a load of crap perpetuated by people who are weak. This is a very hard line that I don't share at all. People are all different and handle adversity in different ways. I work with veterans from several military groups like Marine Corps League, VFW, etc. and the old gummers have lots of colorful views on some of today's PTSD claims.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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Some, but not all.

Some committed suicide because of their PTSD. It has nothing to do with dealing with "difficult situation". My friend could tolerate pain, believe me. His leg was blown off, he didn't even cry!
I put the word pain in quotes because I was not talking only about physical pain.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Many long time hardened military veterans have their own view of PTSD and think it is a load of crap perpetuated by people who are weak. This is a very hard line that I don't share at all. People are all different and handle adversity in different ways.
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I put the word pain in quotes because I was not talking only about physical pain.
Your posts are load of crap

It is attitude like this preventing veterans to seek help in the first place! One of the symptoms of PTSD can be racing thoughts. PTSD causes anxiety. Anxiety may interfere with calm thinking. ... It is possible to have intrusive thoughts, nightmares and racing thoughts due to trauma and inherited emotional challenges. It has nothing to do with "difficult life situations."
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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Your posts are load of crap

It is attitude like this preventing veterans to seek help in the first place!
WTH? I am trying to say that I agree with you on some of this.
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