Are the majority of posters in the political forum old conservative men? (retirement, money)

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Wee-Bey

Not a good comparison to our starry-eyed millennial's Scandinavian dreamscape. Last I checked FDR wasn't a socialist. He was a pragmatist who did what he did under the extreme duress of an economy in meltdown. He tried bits and pieces of every ideology he could lay hands on to keep people from starving and to jump-start the economy. His works programs weren't meant to be a permanent way for people to live and work. They were there to give them paying jobs to keep them from starving until the economy could be coaxed back to life. In fact his policies did not coax the economy back to life. It took something a little more dramatic to do that.

unrelated - Shouldn't your name be FirebirdCamaro1320? You're 100' short.

The 1220 isn't a 1/4 mile reference

[Milton Miteybad]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

Well, I don't trust government with my tax dollars because the politicians use it to buy votes instead of maintaining the means of delivering the services those tax dollars were earmarked for. Government is extremely wasteful, and inefficient, and I don't want them taking more, and more. I've paid into SS all my life, at the highest rates due to my income. I think I should get some of it back someday, but they use it for pork projects instead. That's just what government does. It is corrupt, and untrustworthy. Government IS the corruption.

Here is wisdom.

Here is knowledge tempered by long, long experience.

Here is a correspondent who has realized, as 535 federal legislators have always known (something which consistently eluded the last president) that there is no vast cadre of "millionaires and billionaires" from whom we can extort limitless financial resources with which to support the massive welfare state we have built.

This correspondent knows, as does pretty much everyone over the age of 35, that whatever initiatives we ask government to undertake will be paid for by the average taxpayer, not the imaginary hordes of "millionaires and billionaires" the last president ignorantly believed existed.

Here is a beleaguered taxpayer who knows that the government has ZERO money other than what it can steal from those who lack the resources to fight back.

And in view of that stark reality, this correspondent, through his/her life experiences, learned long ago that there is absolutely no compelling reason to give the government any additional pretext to steal even more money from himself and his similarly situated neighbors. Especially since the government doesn't handle very well the immense sums of money we already make available to them in the first place.

This correspondent obviously figured out a long time ago that the government isn't Santa Claus, and that every penny of tax money the government spends comes from a taxpayer who actually needed the money even more than the government did.

And instead of pursuing the imaginary horde of "millionaires and billionaires" when they needed funds for the next giveaway, the government came for him and his money instead.

Thus, out of the true understanding of this stark, hideous financial reality, is born your basic fiscal conservative.

Fiscal liberals, of course, never get that far in the learning process.

[agnostic soldier]

It's not that conservatives are out of touch, it's the fact that the left is wrong.

[LS Jaun]

Originally Posted by Hapa1

It seems that many conservatives are out of touch with the political beliefs that many Millennials and Gen Z people have, like myself. Most of my generation wants a more socialist country with equal pay, no discrimination, legalized marijuana, higher taxes for the rich, etc...

After this president is gone, I hope we elect one who supports these ideas.

Sorry, Hugo Chavez isn't available.

[LS Jaun]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

I'm sorry, but as a later Gen Xer who has been in the world, works and pays his dues, I still believe in a lot of "traditional FDR style" liberal causes. Don't have an opinion on some of the newer ones you conservatives seem to deride.

There's a few hundred thousand Japanese Americans and others who dont care for FDR's hypocritical Liberalism

[Avondalist]

I'm a young man. I was liberal in college but became conservative when I started working. That's when I realized that only a fraction of the population is necessary to maintain our standard of living. Most people just staff the consumerist game which is just a money recycling game. We live in an overpopulated society and politics is consumed with finding ways to tend to the surplus population.

I dream of a world where our economic surplus can instead be invested in awesome infrastructure and things like space exploration. Instead we have to fund the welfare state because people keep having babies they can't afford. What's the point?

[Ceece]

My millennials think a lot like me politically. We've all gone from liberal to conservative but my son went farther right than me. Probably because he started out farther left due to everything he was taught in school. He's a self learner though so once he got interested in politics in college he sort of deprogrammed himself. He has several friends who think the same way he does and several who are still quite progressive and they debate ALL THE TIME.

[banjomike]

Are the posters on this forum old?

I'm sure they are older than on some other forums. A website dedicated to real estate isn't one that's going to attract a lot of young regular participants. Most of the topics here on P&OC reflect the concerns of the middle-aged and older.

Younger members seem to visit the state and city sub-forums, where they come with some questions, and once answered (or not), don't stick around much afterwards.

[AlongTheI-5]

Almost 60. Too smart for the bumper sticker slogans the right pumps out. Those idiots state universal healthcare is not free. Thing is, it's cheaper. Things are not black and white. They are shades of gray.

Then there is religion. My parents took me to Disneyland more times than they ever took me a stinking church. Therefore I'm free of any imaginary friend that tells me that my purpose in life is to serve the rich.

[Tonyafd]

Originally Posted by Hapa1

It seems that many conservatives are out of touch with the political beliefs that many Millennials and Gen Z people have, like myself. Most of my generation wants a more socialist country with equal pay, no discrimination, legalized marijuana, higher taxes for the rich, etc...

After this president is gone, I hope we elect one who supports these ideas.

A lot of people out there who are over sixty made it to retirement without being laid off. They are in a world where Capitalism did not betray them at any point. Some of them had their own businesses and don't care that the current minimum wage is only 400 percent of what it was forty years ago. They watch the stunning women on FOX news listening to every word, not knowing that they are being indoctrinated.
They don't believe that the Republicans will ever undermine Social Security or Medicare, although they've already tried.

the Democrats are not much better because they've jumped on board the globalization band wagon. They've abandoned the working class, their key to success years ago. This abandonment can be attributed to the sheer volume of money that a consortium of billionaires have thrown at them in recent years.

Please look up the word Socialist. No one wants to nationalize industry. That is a recipe for disaster. What you might want to do is to look up the platforms of the European Social Democrats and Christian Democrats. Working in Europe has perks that are guaranteed by law. In Europe you have health insurance even if you are not working. There is no public campaign in Europe to get rid of unions.