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View Poll Results: Are you happy to be paying for Trump's golfing excursions and tropical vacations?
Yes 16 19.51%
No 66 80.49%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-03-2017, 11:24 PM
 
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The only person taking tropical vacations was and is Obama. Trump goes to his own properties. With a booming stock market taxpayers are more than compensated.
Trump goes to his own properties on the taxpayer's dime. And no, most taxpayers are decidedly not "more than compensated."
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:25 PM
 
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Obama had eight years of being a lying hypocrite. Its Trumps turn now.

Lying and hypocrisy are the currency of politicians. Hating a politician for being a politician, OK

Hypocrisy : defined as saying or feeling one thing and doing another
Let us dissect this post.

First we have the assertion that "Obama is just as bad". This is the old "the other guy did it too" defense.
The defense that small children use to excuse themselves from personal responsibility.

Of course, we are expected to accept the notion that Obama was as big a liar and hypocrite as Trump, which is entirely unsupported by facts or any substantiation.

Then we are told that basically it is normal for politicians, so we should just accept it, no matter how brazen.

Finally, we are presented with the straw man: the definition of hypocrisy. As if that simply clinches the deal!

But most importantly, phma just admitted that Trump is a lying hypocrite , and a politician! Not being a "politician" was supposed to be Trump's "hole card".

And phma asserts that Trump is every bit as bad as Obama!

NICE! Give em enough rope.
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:44 PM
 
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Trump is the President, that's the deal. We paid for Obama's eight years of golfing, campaigning for the Democrats, and lavish, over the top anti "green" vacations. So what? He was elected President. That's the deal.
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:48 PM
 
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Let us dissect this post.

First we have the assertion that "Obama is just as bad". This is the old "the other guy did it too" defense.
The defense that small children use to excuse themselves from personal responsibility.

Of course, we are expected to accept the notion that Obama was as big a liar and hypocrite as Trump, which is entirely unsupported by facts or any substantiation.

Then we are told that basically it is normal for politicians, so we should just accept it, no matter how brazen.

Finally, we are presented with the straw man: the definition of hypocrisy. As if that simply clinches the deal!

But most importantly, phma just admitted that Trump is a lying hypocrite , and a politician! Not being a "politician" was supposed to be Trump's "hole card".

And phma asserts that Trump is every bit as bad as Obama!

NICE! Give em enough rope.
Stick with dissecting dead frogs there is 50/50 chance they won't confuse you.

1) I was responding to a post that mentioned Obama.
2) Obama was not just as bad. He was worse and had more time at it.
3) Obama's lies are well documented believe it or not. Nothing changes it.
4) If you aren't convinced that politicians lie you will need more help than the frog.
5) All politician lie and are hypocrites who present themselves in the best light possible
6) Even Trump admits he is a politician now. The hole card was played months ago
7) Here we are at lucky seven and you crapped out, time to pass the dice.
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:51 PM
 
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Stick with dissecting dead frogs there is 50/50 chance they won't confuse you.

1) I was responding to a post that mentioned Obama.
2) Obama was not just as bad. He was worse and had more time at it.
3) Obama's lies are well documented believe it or not. Nothing changes it.
4) If you aren't convinced that politicians lie you will need more help than the frog.
5) All politician lie and are hypocrites who present themselves in the best light possible
6) Even Trump admits he is a politician now. The hole card was played months ago
7) Here we are at lucky seven and you crapped out, time to pass the dice.
Yet you still are saying Trump is a complete liar and hypocrite, excusing it as "normal" and supporting him completely. Got it!

And upping the ante with a personal attack. Every trick in the book, eh?

Glad to see you have finally come around to admitting what Trump is. That's the first step..
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:54 PM
 
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Trump is the President, that's the deal. We paid for Obama's eight years of golfing, campaigning for the Democrats, and lavish, over the top anti "green" vacations. So what? He was elected President. That's the deal.
Well then, if "that's the deal" we can all just ignore it go about our business. You first!
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:56 PM
 
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Yet you still are saying Trump is a complete liar and hypocrite, excusing it as "normal" and supporting him completely. Got it!

And upping the ante with a personal attack. Every trick in the book, eh?

Glad to see you have finally come around.
Its not a personal attack. If you study the frogs anatomy better than you study politics you have a chance.
You should be able to identify all the organs on the test. It takes the same kind of effort to know a lie when you hear one. Show up for the class next time and pass it.
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:59 PM
 
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Its not a personal attack. If you study the frogs anatomy better than you study politics you have a chance.
Really? Suggesting I have only a 50/50 chance of understanding a frog's innards is not a personal attack?

In that case , I am suggesting you only have a 50/50 chance of tying a shoe.

Nothing personal.
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Old 08-04-2017, 12:10 AM
 
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Really? Suggesting I have only a 50/50 chance of understanding a frog's innards is not a personal attack?
Did you study the anatomy ? IDK


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In that case , I am suggesting you only have a 50/50 chance of tying a shoe.

Nothing personal.
I don't take it personal.

Well, you are half right. I'm not sure I could.
I don't have any shoes with shoe laces. Maybe its because I don't have any feet or need for shoes.
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Old 08-04-2017, 12:11 AM
 
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A comparison of Trump "lies" to Obama "lies"

Trump has only had 6 months plus a campaign, Obama 8 years and a campaign.

In that time, Trump has amassed 37 "pants on fire" to Obama's 9.

Since it has been just over 6 months, should Trump last 8 years, that would equate to almost 600 "pants on fire" to Obama's 9.

All Pants on Fire! statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact

All Pants on Fire! statements involving Barack Obama | PolitiFact

This is where you "attack the source", right?
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