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Old 04-13-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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Oh this cracks me up. Royally cracks me up.

Now everyone is worried about discrimination when its the whites who are the minority. Another piece of evidence why *some* whites are so afraid of becoming the minority in this country. LOL This is RICH.
It's not rich. You just fail at math.

A non-discriminatory admissions process would admit based on merit. We can parse the numbers for each racial group what would be included in such meritocratic admission for each race via SAT scores.

If we do that, and even if we were to admit the same percentage of qualified students from each racial group (thus not affecting any one group more than another as a percentage of admissions) the class would be comprised of mostly white and Asian students.

It certainly wouldn't be minority majority, which in actuality telegraphs discrimination in favor of certain minorities. In other words, a higher percentage of similarly qualified students are admitted from the minority group than the white group.

 
Old 04-13-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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Do any of these Ivy League schools do followups on how well their grads do later in life?
Are these kids graded on a different scale?
What is the graduation rate of blacks and Latinos compared to whites?
 
Old 04-13-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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So Asians want ALL of the spots in the incoming freshman class?

Lol...that’s simply never gonna happen. Not at Harvard.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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https://www.collegefactual.com/colle...diversity.html

All though Harvard is admitting more and more non white and non Asian minorities every year it’s not like either of these groups are in anyway overrepresented in the university. In fact all of them have smaller percentages than whites, and definitely smaller than Asians.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I'll say the same exact thing to the Asian Americans in on this lawsuit. Get over it. I know whites AND Asian Americans are used to being the pretty girls in the room but that's changing and I'm glad for it.
What ain’t changing is brown and black test scores lagging behind white and yellow test scores.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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What ain’t changing is brown and black test scores lagging behind white and yellow test scores.
Average test scores don’t matter in admission though. I personally know one person who got into Harvard (She is Black- Nigerian) she had 300+ hours of community service, 1510 SAT + or - 20 points Was captain of the Volleyball Team (Small School though), and was involved in clubs as well as a GPA above 4.4, don’t know the number but essentially All As and 2B and all AP classes in 11th and 12th grade. I’m sure that is similar for the average Harvard attendee regardless of race not to mention, if you factor out Sports scholarships and international students. AA is valid for schools like UH or if that caliber but even good state schools aren’t taking in people 200 points below their average not on a sports scholarship. You look at the average SAT score in Harvard and it was 1515 on old SAT and has increased to 1540 on New SAT and their accepting more non-Asian minorities than ever before. Not to mention to even get into Harvard you need to take subject tests and the average person taking subject tests is already at 1400-1450 SAT already.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Average test scores don’t matter in admission though. I personally know one person who got into Harvard (She is Black- Nigerian) she had 300+ hours of community service, 1510 SAT + or - 20 points Was captain of the Volleyball Team (Small School though), and was involved in clubs as well as a GPA above 4.4, don’t know the number but essentially All As and 2B and all AP classes in 11th and 12th grade. I’m sure that is similar for the average Harvard attendee regardless of race not to mention, if you factor out Sports scholarships and international students. AA is valid for schools like UH or if that caliber but even good state schools aren’t taking in people 200 points below their average not on a sports scholarship. You look at the average SAT score in Harvard and it was 1515 on old SAT and has increased to 1540 on New SAT and their accepting more non-Asian minorities than ever before. Not to mention to even get into Harvard you need to take subject tests and the average person taking subject tests is already at 1400-1450 SAT already.
I am not sure about the specifics of Harvard’s students but I was speaking in general. Of course many African immigrant groups do quite well. Also third generation Asian Americans scores are lower on average than second generation Asian Americans. Culture is the driving factor, not race.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 05:11 PM
 
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I don't think Harvard means what it used to. It used to mean you were smart. Now it means that you're a snowflake or likely future Leftist lawyer.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 11:02 PM
 
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What ain’t changing is brown and black test scores lagging behind white and yellow test scores.
A Harvard degree doesn’t have test scores on it.
 
Old 04-13-2018, 11:05 PM
 
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I don't think Harvard means what it used to. It used to mean you were smart. Now it means that you're a snowflake or likely future Leftist lawyer.
Yeah, people who had absolutely no chance of ever getting into Harvard always say that.
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