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Old 08-11-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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You're on the verge of a nuclear war with No. Korea. Does that count as 'damage?
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:43 AM
 
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You're on the verge of a nuclear war with No. Korea. Does that count as 'damage?
No, it just means the MSM has you scared thinking N. Korea would be any match for us.
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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No, it just means the MSM has you scared thinking N. Korea would be any match for us.


Nuclear weapons hitting the U.S is a bad thing match or not. The lives that would be lost would be a horror.
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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You're on the verge of a nuclear war with No. Korea. Does that count as 'damage?
You can thank Bill Clinton for this. (and probably every President since).
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:51 AM
 
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You can thank Bill Clinton for this. (and probably every President since).


Up to and including Trump.
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Old 08-11-2017, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I agree that he is politically divisive, and it is a good thing. Did you trust where politicians were leading us before he came on the scene? They made it seem like every thing was okay, yet a lot of average people felt otherwise.
I find it interesting that for the 8 years Obama was in office, the left shared in Obamas utter disgust for everything American. They cheered when he gave speeches calling Americans "arrogant" and lazy, They loved it every time he bowed in servitude to leaders of other nations, they were silent every time he openly betrayed our closest allies. Now that Trump is in office, these same libs scream bloody murder about how they are embarrased to be Americans, how Trump is making us the laughingstock of the world etc, etc. Whay the change?
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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Anyone who even asks the thread question has to be a crazed Trump cultist, or living in a bunker.

Trump has harmed the U.S. in thousands of very obvious ways, from destroying our global reputation, increasing the risk of nuclear war, harming our democracy, poisoning our air and water, enabling our enemies, threatening the Constitution and free press, demonizing immigrants, minorities, women, gays, etc.

He's a walking, talking mega-fail. Sad!
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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I find it interesting that for the 8 years Obama was in office, the left shared in Obamas utter disgust for everything American. They cheered when he gave speeches calling Americans "arrogant" and lazy, They loved it every time he bowed in servitude to leaders of other nations, they were silent every time he openly betrayed our closest allies. Now that Trump is in office, these same libs scream bloody murder about how they are embarrased to be Americans, how Trump is making us the laughingstock of the world etc, etc. Whay the change?
Trump's demeanor and rudeness does this. He tweets without making sure it remains respectful of the high office he holds. Especially concerning crisis in nations that are our allies.

If he wants to be loved and looked up to? He needs to present a cautious, thought out reply and rebuttal to adversaries and realize our Allies are NOT adversaries too. Take lessons from Ronald Reagan who knew in your face diplomacy .... does not mean you lower yourself to a dictator's threats with similar antics.

Timing too means soooooo much. President Reagan saying - "Mr. Gorbachev ..... take down this wall" . Was firm and timing and location perfect.

I can imagine nations in the world showing cartoons of Kim and Donald in both their snarl faces. The world still wants a strong US leader that in front of the camera or computer in tweets? NOT to act as bad as a immature and untrustworthy dictator that can have a finger on the button of a nuclear missile..... as some fear our President is too.

Trump created this persona that scares the world ....''NOT in fear of US might and power of its military"? But they fear trusting him with a finger on a nuclear weapon simply because he comes off as a loose canon. By lashing out first in short term decision making as if acting before he thinks many times.

Daring and intimidation of adversaries in business and those he employs is one thing? But much different then over-reacting to the press giving them ammunition.... and with world leaders and especially our Allies. Also to immature dictators we know we can squash. But their location in the world is as delicate as the Middle East like Israel. Russia and China right there next to NK makes it a more volatile location then even the Middle East right now

The world fears Trump ...... almost as much as Kim..... that is on top of laughing at past antics with little people who easily can provoke Trump to a tweet that has you think? Why not just have broader shoulders and save any comments to the most opportune times where their off the wall mocking is deflated with thought-out dignity. Or at least spin it with some knowledge of a politician .....

The art of spin can be like the art of the deal? Get it right you win or at least the flack deflected from you.

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Old 08-11-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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Anyone who even asks the thread question has to be a crazed Trump cultist, or living in a bunker.

Trump has harmed the U.S. in thousands of very obvious ways, from destroying our global reputation, increasing the risk of nuclear war, harming our democracy, poisoning our air and water, enabling our enemies, threatening the Constitution and free press, demonizing immigrants, minorities, women, gays, etc.

He's a walking, talking mega-fail. Sad!
OMG! I had to read this post several times to fully understand the complete insanity of it all Do you really understand half of what you posted? Or did you lift these talking points from dailyKOS?

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destroying our global reputation,
Last I checked, Trump is not the President of the world. Global reputation? Who the hell cares?

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increasing the risk of nuclear war,
By challenging a madman who threatened to wipe out the US with nuclear weapons?

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harming our democracy,
Um..we are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic. Are you even an American?


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poisoning our air and water
Please provide a link showing that Trump DIRECTLY did any of that..

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enabling our enemies,
What enemies would that be? Can you give some examples?

Im ending it there-we all know you will abandon this thread rather than face the music of your toxic lies
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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he isn't a PROG and he didn't make people bow at the PROG ALTER.


in other news, Trump has the exact same immigration policy the left had 20 years ago before PROGS figured out they needed dirt poor unskilled foreigners to vote them into office, and the rest of the dems got co-opted by big business.
That's Prog ALTAR not ALTER.

The English language is becoming such an important commodity as of late that it should be treated well.

Just saying
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