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Old 08-04-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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I think that we've firmly established that the OP is obsessed with race.

That may be a little unfair though, because the politics forum as a whole has gradually become more and more a sort of Stormfront Light.

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Old 08-04-2017, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It does not matter one iota what race you are when you commit a crime.

That is it how it should be

Well, hold on one sec, Susan Rice just called to say ............youz all attakin mi lyin becoz im black and a woman....

Until some people can take responsibility for their actions without pulling the race card, then there is little hope for unity of purpose going forward.

What is that? Have you ever heard her speak in person? I have. She sounds nothing like this.

Why are you writing this out to sound like she's Billy Batts from Goodfellas? Or writing it out to sound like anything other than an educated person?

What a dope.
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I think that we've firmly established that the OP is obsessed with race.

That may be a little unfair though, because the politics forum as a whole has gradually become more and more a sort of Stormfront Light.
More like Stormfront, whatever they can get past the moderators.
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I think that we've firmly established that the OP is obsessed with race.

That may be a little unfair though, because the politics forum as a whole has gradually become more and more a sort of Stormfront Light.
The racism has been around since he was elected, some people just couldn't accept the fact that a black president was elected. You can see some of the derogatory remarks in this ridiculous thread, some people never change.
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Definitely one of the funniest things I've read all week.
indeed, nice way to end my week. I'm going home now LOL.

hilarious.
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:59 PM
 
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I think that we've firmly established that the OP is obsessed with race.

That may be a little unfair though, because the politics forum as a whole has gradually become more and more a sort of Stormfront Light.
Criticizing people the likes of Marilyn lynch and susan rice who are corrupt doesnt make this place stormfront.

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indeed, nice way to end my week. I'm going home now LOL.

hilarious.
Whats hilarious is that people delude themselves into thinking that the obama presidency never had anything but the upmost support from the entire media establishment, outside of a few right wing radio talk shows, conservative web sites and fox , the entire establishment was behind obama and what was his legacy?

The democrat party in the states is decimated, the dems lost control of the House and Senate, the governorships are decimated, probably lost scotus for a generation, 1,000 seats lost . and dems control fewest number of state legislatures in history. In terms of boosting his party’s state-level strength, Obama is the worst president since World War II.

The dems are are in their worst shape in 100 years and the media and the dems are still not critical of Obama. lol
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Old 08-04-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Criticizing people the likes of Marilyn lynch and susan rice who are corrupt doesnt make this place stormfront.



Whats hilarious is that people delude themselves into thinking that the obama presidency never had anything but the upmost support from the entire media establishment, outside of a few right wing radio talk shows, conservative web sites and fox , the entire establishment was behind obama and what was his legacy?

The democrat party in the states is decimated, the dems lost control of the House and Senate, the governorships are decimated, probably lost scotus for a generation, 1,000 seats lost . and dems control fewest number of state legislatures in history. In terms of boosting his party’s state-level strength, Obama is the worst president since World War II.

The dems are are in their worst shape in 100 years and the media and the dems are still not critical of Obama. lol
There you go again exaggerating, yes the republicans have made large gains and control most of states but no one would call democrats decimated. The best way to defeat a party is to allow them to be in power, sorry but I don't see a clear victory for the GOP in 2018, health care alone could kill them off. Problem with being the majority party is you have no one to blame, the GOP is very uncomfortable in this position as they are used to just complaining. Solutions are quite another story.
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Old 08-04-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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There you go again exaggerating, yes the republicans have made large gains and control most of states but no one would call democrats decimated. The best way to defeat a party is to allow them to be in power, sorry but I don't see a clear victory for the GOP in 2018, health care alone could kill them off. Problem with being the majority party is you have no one to blame, the GOP is very uncomfortable in this position as they are used to just complaining. Solutions are quite another story.
Exactly. You can tear down a building in a day but it takes months or years to rebuild it.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:03 PM
 
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Of course. How many times have we heard any criticism of Obama administration or just simply not voting for Obama could only be because he's black? Obama administration had the liberal card that protects all liberals in the government plus he had the black card.

Example in this thread:

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The racism has been around since he was elected, some people just couldn't accept the fact that a black president was elected.
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Old 08-05-2017, 05:42 AM
 
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You need to have some indication of a crime to appoint a special prosecutor, maybe the GOP committees missed these obvious felonies. It's not as if they didn't try.


The GOP really didn't care about the tarmac meeting, their dream came true and they got Comey and then.....
"You need to have some indication of a crime to appoint a special prosecutor,"

Good, name the specific crime in detail cited in order to appoint Mueller.

"The purpose of a special counsel is to investigate if a federal crime was committed. There has been no charge or allegation that Trump or his campaign workers violated any federal law. The authorization by Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein to Mueller read:
(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.
(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).
(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters."


"What are "links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump?" "Links and Coordination" is not a specific charge of violation of federal law. It is not like the Russians and others paying hundreds of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and $500,000 in speech fees to Bill Clinton in connection with Hillary approving the sale of 20% of our uranium by a Canadian company to the Russians.
The authorization given by Rosenstein is broad and vague, which allows Mueller to investigate anything he wants under the guise that it is a "link" or "coordination." Rosenstein should have given a specific authorization to investigate any Russian or other foreign efforts that affected the results of the election. Of course, we know there is no evidence that voting machines were hacked to change votes, or that thousands of Russians illegally came to Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan to vote for Trump. There is no such evidence because these things did not occur."


"It is basic criminal law that a criminal statute must be specific and clear to define the conduct that is declared illegal so that one knows that the conduct is illegal. Similarly, if one is being investigated, the investigators must be authorized to seek out some specific conduct that is illegal and have probable cause to believe that the target of the investigation is involved illegally. There is no such evidence here."


"It appears that Mueller is using the "link and/or coordination" authority to investigate matters totally unrelated to whether the Russians affected the 2016 election. For example, according to the latest leaks, most likely from the Obama-Clinton attorneys on the Mueller staff:"
FBI investigators and others are looking at Russian purchases of apartments in Trump buildings, Trump's involvement in a controversial SoHo development with Russian associates, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump's sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008.
If this is true, then Rosenstein must immediately clarify the authorization to state that Mueller will investigate:
1. Whether the Russian government hacked the DNC servers, and why the DNC refused to allow the FBI to investigate. If so, what information was obtained? Was this information accurate, or was it fabricated by the Russians with the participation of the Trump campaign?
2. Whether the Russian government hacked the emails or John Podesta. If so, what information was obtained in the emails? Were the emails accurate or fabricated by the Russians with the participation of the Trump campaign?
3. Whether there is evidence that voting machines were tampered with by anyone to change the voting results.
4. Whether anyone not a validly registered voter voted in the 2016 election.
Trump is absolutely correct that Attorney General Sessions erred in recusing himself from the "Russia" investigation. This matter has been investigated by Comey, Congress, and the Destroy Trump Media for the past year, and there is no evidence that Trump or his campaign violated any federal laws.
But with Sessions's recusal and Rosenstein's broad, vague warrant to Mueller, the Justice Department, which is responsible as part of the Executive Branch to enforce the laws of the United States, has no control over the investigation. Mueller is creating his own Justice Department, staffed with attorneys who donated to Hillary and Obama or who worked for Hillary's foundation, that is not accountable to the actual Justice Department – and worse, seems to leak daily to the Destroy Trump Media.
Mueller's investigation seems like Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation into the Valerie Plame leak, where Fitzgerald (Comey's pal) knew within days that it was the office of Colin Powell that had leaked. Yet he continued his "investigation" to jail a reporter and hound Scooter Libby, who was convicted of perjury because his testimony differed from Tim Russert's.
Mueller knows there is no crime but will continue to investigate, hoping to nail a witness for "perjury" like Scooter Libby. If there was evidence of criminal conduct against Trump for the 2016 election, he would be impeached. There is no such evidence.
The Destroy Trump Media are excited about the Donald Trump, Jr. meeting, but again, there is no crime. It was legitimate to see if the Russians had any evidence about Hillary, such as more evidence about her approval of the uranium deal or more speaking gigs for Bill Clinton.
Simply stated, there is no federal crime here.
If Mueller is the honest FBI man and prosecutor as portrayed, then he should close shop. If he does not, then Rosenstein should issue a detailed order specifying the conduct to be investigated, remove all attorneys who contributed to Hillary and worked for her foundation, and fire those leaking to the Destroy Trump Media.
Rosenstein should give a clear order about criminal conduct, not a fishing license.
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Quote:
Gowdy: Good morning, Director Comey. Secretary Clinton said she never sent or received any classified information over her private e-mail, was that true?
Comey: Our investigation found that there was classified information sent.
Gowdy: It was not true?
Comey: That’s what I said.
Gowdy: OK. Well, I’m looking for a shorter answer so you and I are not here quite as long. Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails sent or received. Was that true?
Comey: That’s not true.
There were a small number of portion markings on I think three of the documents.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said “I did not e-mail any classified information to anyone on my e-mail there was no classified material.” That is true?
Comey: There was classified information emailed.

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton used one device, was that true?
Comey: She used multiple devices during the four years of her term as Secretary of State.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said all work related emails were returned to the State Department. Was that true?
Comey: No. We found work related email, thousands, that were not returned.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said neither she or anyone else deleted work related emails from her personal account.
Comey: That’s a harder one to answer. We found traces of work related emails in — on devices or in space. Whether they were deleted or when a server was changed out something happened to them, there’s no doubt that the work related emails that were removed electronically from the email system.
Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the emails and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the email content individually?
Comey: No.


"Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

So it is CLEAR Hillary RECEIVED, HAD and SENT CLASSIFIED material via her private server.

The LAW says she is GUILTY.

Is THAT enough for you?

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