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No way. That is not America, and it better not ever be America.
The results of decriminalization in other countries of the world would appear to disagree with you.
And light sentences? Give me a break. We have more people (users) locked up in prison than anywhere on the planet. Draconian punishments. They don't work in the least to deter desire.
Give it a chance. The War on Drugs has failed. The War on Drugs is a failure. The War on Drugs will always be a failure, even if it were ramped-up to the preposterous proportions you think is justified. It is time for America to join the rest of the free, civilized world and admit it.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune if your kid steps on a dirty needle at a playground. There are parks in Massachusetts that have signs cautioning of needles.
Go to the Hudson River to go fishing, near the railroad tracks you can find them strewn about near the shore. Stuff I've seen first hand.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune when you've seen the effects it has on families.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune if you knew the health care costs from overdoses to organ failure to communicable diseases such as Hepatitis and HIV.
Bet you'd sing a different tune if you dealt with the scourge looting to support their habits.
Don't want to hear it when your utopia turns to chit. I say get involved in dope lose health coverage. Sick people should be treated and pandered to like this scourge. I'm glad my cousins first time shooting up was his last. Good riddance scumbag. No remorse for his attention seeking mother and passive pushover father either.
A holes enabled the scumbag always boohooing you don't understand to anyone who'll listen, not me. I watched them cater to the punk and perpetuate his habit.
it's a disease! Nope. Not a disease. Self inflicted habit. Nobody put a gun or knife to the kids head/throat and told him snort this, shoot that, smoke this, swallow that. Made a clear conscious decision to be a dope. Played dumb games won dumb prizes. Special place in hell for him I hope they turn the heat up. Heathen. you don't understand and lack compassion. I lack compassion? I didn't mug people at knife point. Nor did I break into houses, steal, or beat on a woman who loved me with all her heart for her money to support the habit.
No mercy for the pushers of poison.
As for personal responsibility pertaining to prescription opioids, you can refuse them. Unless doctors strong arm you to take them, you don't have to take them. I refused them when I launched L2 and L3. That's pain.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune if your kid steps on a dirty needle at a playground. There are parks in Massachusetts that have signs cautioning of needles.
Go to the Hudson River to go fishing, near the railroad tracks you can find them strewn about near the shore. Stuff I've seen first hand.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune when you've seen the effects it has on families.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune if you knew the health care costs from overdoses to organ failure to communicable diseases such as Hepatitis and HIV.
Bet you'd sing a different tune if you dealt with the scourge looting to support their habits.
Don't want to hear it when your utopia turns to chit. I say get involved in dope lose health coverage. Sick people should be treated and pandered to like this scourge. I'm glad my cousins first time shooting up was his last. Good riddance scumbag. No remorse for his attention seeking mother and passive pushover father either.
A holes enabled the scumbag always boohooing you don't understand to anyone who'll listen, not me. I watched them cater to the punk and perpetuate his habit.
it's a disease! Nope. Not a disease. Self inflicted habit. Nobody put a gun or knife to the kids head/throat and told him snort this, shoot that, smoke this, swallow that. Made a clear conscious decision to be a dope. Played dumb games won dumb prizes. Special place in hell for him I hope they turn the heat up. Heathen. you don't understand and lack compassion. I lack compassion? I didn't mug people at knife point. Nor did I break into houses, steal, or beat on a woman who loved me with all her heart for her money to support the habit.
No mercy for the pushers of poison.
As for personal responsibility pertaining to prescription opioids, you can refuse them. Unless doctors strong arm you to take them, you don't have to take them. I refused them when I launched L2 and L3. That's pain.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune if your kid steps on a dirty needle at a playground. There are parks in Massachusetts that have signs cautioning of needles.
Go to the Hudson River to go fishing, near the railroad tracks you can find them strewn about near the shore. Stuff I've seen first hand.
I bet you'd be wrong. In fact, 180 degrees wrong.
How you cannot see that the examples you just cited are EXACTLY the types of things that gets fixed by decriminalizing is beyond me. There would be no need for dirty needles to be anywhere. Just engage your brain and think about it.
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Bet you'd be singing a different tune when you've seen the effects it has on families.
It can have devastating effects. I know that. I also know that implementing policies that minimizes the harm also minimizes the harm to families.
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Bet you'd be singing a different tune if you knew the health care costs from overdoses to organ failure to communicable diseases such as Hepatitis and HIV.
Keeping users from having to use dirty needles and having to buy contaminated, unknown strength street drugs practically eliminates overdoses. I refer you to the overdose stats from Portugal. But I believe regardless of stats, you're not going to be able to accept it. You're fighting a culture war, where you would rather see addicts in jail where they belong, instead of minimizing the harm, right?
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Don't want to hear it when your utopia turns to chit. I say get involved in dope lose health coverage. Sick people should be treated and pandered to like this scourge. I'm glad my cousins first time shooting up was his last. Good riddance scumbag. No remorse for his attention seeking mother and passive pushover father either.
A holes enabled the scumbag always boohooing you don't understand to anyone who'll listen, not me. I watched them cater to the punk and perpetuate his habit.
Thank you for answering my previous question. No wonder you're so one-track minded and jaded about this. Thank you for enlightening us.
Sadly, liberals in Arizona are doing the same as Colorado and being lax on this epidemic.
Amazing, how much of this due to the politicians not securing the borders and deporting all illegals. Many of the illegals have side businesses have drug trafficking potent Mexican heroin.
Arizona is a border state of course and according to the this article, it is estimated that 94% of heroin is smuggled in from Mexico across the border.
94 percent of heroin comes from illegal border smuggling according to this article.
Sad, that because Arizona liberals won't secure the border that 1,298 overdoses happen in just over 5 weeks. So many people could be saved if they secured the borders, built a big wall and deported all illegals.
I think it is interesting how they track these numbers with sophisticated reporting systems but the liberal Arizona politicians don't have solutions to these issues like they were elected to do.
They spend so much tracking this data with sophisticated reporting systems but there is non-sophisticated solution such a bigger walls and more law enforcement at the border.
More excuses instead of putting the responsibility where it belongs. It's not an open border or Mexicans, it's the physicians right here in the USA. It's similar to employment of illegals, if the punishment for employers was harsh, then it would be a difference. But it seems no one wants to do that.
Honestly-who cares? If some moron wants to kill themselves with heroin, let them. Just so long as we don't waste taxpayer money trying to keep them from killing themselves, or worse, on some BS "treatment" program, let them do their thing.
This is especially true since Arizona is a "Red" State.
Conservatives simply want to try to tie this crisis to marijuana (even though they are totally not related) and roll back the trend towards marijuana legalization. It will have no impact on the opioid crisis if they are successful.
It's a national tragedy which has been made much worse by the legal pharma industry. I don't think this should be political question, we all need to come up with better solutions and outcomes.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune if your kid steps on a dirty needle at a playground. There are parks in Massachusetts that have signs cautioning of needles.
Go to the Hudson River to go fishing, near the railroad tracks you can find them strewn about near the shore. Stuff I've seen first hand.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune when you've seen the effects it has on families.
Bet you'd be singing a different tune if you knew the health care costs from overdoses to organ failure to communicable diseases such as Hepatitis and HIV.
Bet you'd sing a different tune if you dealt with the scourge looting to support their habits.
Don't want to hear it when your utopia turns to chit. I say get involved in dope lose health coverage. Sick people should be treated and pandered to like this scourge. I'm glad my cousins first time shooting up was his last. Good riddance scumbag. No remorse for his attention seeking mother and passive pushover father either.
A holes enabled the scumbag always boohooing you don't understand to anyone who'll listen, not me. I watched them cater to the punk and perpetuate his habit.
it's a disease! Nope. Not a disease. Self inflicted habit. Nobody put a gun or knife to the kids head/throat and told him snort this, shoot that, smoke this, swallow that. Made a clear conscious decision to be a dope. Played dumb games won dumb prizes. Special place in hell for him I hope they turn the heat up. Heathen. you don't understand and lack compassion. I lack compassion? I didn't mug people at knife point. Nor did I break into houses, steal, or beat on a woman who loved me with all her heart for her money to support the habit.
No mercy for the pushers of poison.
As for personal responsibility pertaining to prescription opioids, you can refuse them. Unless doctors strong arm you to take them, you don't have to take them. I refused them when I launched L2 and L3. That's pain.
Exactly. In many places in asia they dont play around like the west. In singapore you can get the death penalty for trafficking which is actually not that hard for them to prove as any sort of quantity and you are in trouble , mandatory jail sentences and caning for possession, penalties for possession of small amounts range from fines of up to $20,000 to a maximum of ten years in prison
You can be dragged into custody without a warrant and be compelled to submit to drug testing by the Singapore authorities. Harsh laws, mercilessly applied. Zero tolerance.
I dont think I have ever seen a homeless person in singapore, nobody pushing drugs in streets , committing crimes, child abuse because of drugs. Japan, thailand all over asia they dont have this "tolerant " attitude towards drug abuse and crime you see in the failing west
You can be dragged into custody without a warrant and be compelled to submit to drug testing by the Singapore authorities. Harsh laws, mercilessly applied. Zero tolerance.
Think about what you are saying! Is that really the type of country you want to live in??? My gosh.
Think about how corrupt that is. Not only does it take our Bill of Rights and throws it right in the trash can, but imagine coming home to find no spouse. Turns out while you were at work your spouse was overheard saying something the government didn't like, or typing something the government didn't like, and now your spouse is dead. "Oh, we found drugs on him/her so we executed them, on the spot, like you want us to do".
Using such corrupt laws, the government could execute anyone they want anytime they want. I prefer to live in the free world, without having to constantly look over my shoulder as I walk down the street, or worrying whether that post I wrote on CD will result in my door being broken down and me being shot. In fact, I insist on it.
Have you ever noticed the lack of Singaporeans posting their opinions on the Internet?
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it's a disease! Nope. Not a disease. Self inflicted habit. Nobody put a gun or knife to the kids head/throat and told him snort this, shoot that, smoke this, swallow that. Made a clear conscious decision to be a dope. Played dumb games won dumb prizes. Special place in hell for him I hope they turn the heat up. Heathen. 
