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View Poll Results: How has immigration affected your community?
Immigration has improved my community a lot/give me more 44 32.35%
It's been good but I wouldn't want more 5 3.68%
It's been somewhat bad and I'd like to see less 14 10.29%
Immigration has made my community worse/wish it was totally gone 50 36.76%
Haven't noticed a difference or no opinion 23 16.91%
Voters: 136. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-07-2017, 02:56 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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All the recent news have been bringing out a lot of polarized views on immigration. I'm curious what the effect immigration has had on your actual neighborhood/town/city, rather than on a macro scale. Not talking about morality, principle, or idealism. Those are important, sure, but I'm more interested in what you are seeing with your own eyes and in your own life.

And I'm hoping immigrants can also participate, because surely you may also be affected by immigration that followed yours.
If it weren't for immigration, we would all still be living where our species evolved. It would be very crowded.
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Old 08-07-2017, 03:51 AM
 
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My family legally immigrated to the U.S. and I am part of the first generation born and raised in the States. So clearly immigration has affected my life positively. Most people with whom I grew up are recent Americans and we are all quite successful. So I'm pro-legal immigration.

As for illegal immigration, I believe that for a time, illegals were allowed to come in and many children were brought with them. I feel those people should be given a chance to prove they have been here for a substantial period and allowed to remain, as long as they are law-abiding. Beyond that, illegal immigrants need to be deported.
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Old 08-07-2017, 06:51 AM
 
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Do you have any statistics to back up your premise? Your forefathers were likely immigrants. At some point in time they became legal. See how that works? The only true native peoples of this country are the American Indians. If you are NOT then your position is that of a Moral dilemma rather than a rational one.

Most of our ancestors weren't here illegally in the first place so how did they become legal? That makes no sense. There were no true or original natives to this country. All of our ancestors migrated here from somewhere else. The American Indians did also.
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Old 08-07-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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And so by that reasoning you're going to need an ever increasing immigrant stream and constant population growth as the previous immigrant population ages. That follows the logic of a pyramid scheme that will collapse sooner than later.
The absolute truth. Why can't some grasp that simple concept?
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Old 08-07-2017, 07:02 AM
 
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I dont think one person would say mass immigration improves social cohesion or makes a community stronger. Its just a "mosaic" of cultures that dont integrate with other cultures? Every culture we import is very xenophobic towards other cultures and races. lol


I doubt any culture or race immigrating here wants "multiculturalism", the "melting pot", and mass immigration in their home country.
Actually, numerous people immigrating to the U.S. come from multicultural nations. Many of their nations were formed from immigration from all over the world. The reason they come to the U.S. is for greater opportunity.

Some cultures are more xenophobic than others.

My country of descent is a mix of various peoples and religions. It is one of the few places in the world where Christian, Hindus and Muslims live well together overall. Of course, there have been and still are challenges. But it wouldn't be the beautiful, unique place that it is without people of different origins...
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Old 08-07-2017, 07:23 AM
 
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All the recent news have been bringing out a lot of polarized views on immigration. I'm curious what the effect immigration has had on your actual neighborhood/town/city, rather than on a macro scale. Not talking about morality, principle, or idealism. Those are important, sure, but I'm more interested in what you are seeing with your own eyes and in your own life.

And I'm hoping immigrants can also participate, because surely you may also be affected by immigration that followed yours.
Zero.
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Old 08-07-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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All the recent news have been bringing out a lot of polarized views on immigration. I'm curious what the effect immigration has had on your actual neighborhood/town/city, rather than on a macro scale.
Legal immigration has been a net benefit in the DC area. Lots of international foods, restaurants and all that good stuff.

However, there are too many illegal immigrants that have caused schools to decline and too many Spanish-speaking people who refuse to speak English.
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Old 08-07-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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Legal immigration has been a net benefit in the DC area. Lots of international foods, restaurants and all that good stuff.

However, there are too many illegal immigrants that have caused schools to decline and too many Spanish-speaking people who refuse to speak English.
Agreed. I grew up in the DC Metro and enjoyed what the diversity brought to the area. One day Thai food, next Ethiopian and another Indian. The cultural activities are second to none.

But I agree with your second paragraph...
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Old 08-07-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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Legal immigration is fine, but illegal immigration has destroyed some areas in my state. My city hasn't been all that effected, but places like Tucson or Phoenix are now complete hell-holes because of it.


AZ is losing the battle. I think we got about another 10-15 years before we become NM and lose our identity as a state.
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Old 08-07-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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Didn't have an option for me. Immigration has broadened my perspectives on different people from various parts of the world. It has taught me that all people basically want the same things - food, shelter, clothing, stability, and that we all have a love for our communities, families, and native nations.

I have been fortunate to have went to school with immigrants, primarily refugees from Asia/the ME. I also knew quite a few Chicano/Chicana immigrants who moved to the city I'm from via them having family already here and being sponsored. I especially learned to enjoy Mexican music due to that influence and Vietnamese and Thai and various Middle Eastern/Mediterranean foods due to my friends I grew up with.

Since I've been an adult, I've worked in housing with a lot of different immigrant groups including Russians (mostly Russian Jews), Cambodians, Laosian/Hmong, Nepalese, Sudanese, Somalians, and various people from West African nations like Cameroon, C'ote D'Ivoire, and Liberia.

They have all primarily been wonderful people and I've learned not to be prejudiced against immigrant groups or overly suspicious of people just because they are from another country.
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