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Old 08-06-2017, 10:55 PM
 
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We had this discussion before. It's 0%.

Nobody should be paying taxes on the money or property they have earned.

Right, so let's just tax UNearned income.
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:58 PM
 
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The Libertarian in me says 0% of course.

However, the realist in me knows that's not possible.

So, I'd advocate a flat tax.

10% federal and up to but not more than 5% state (individual States can decide).

No deductions.

No exceptions.

Everyone pays the same % across the board.

I'll sign up for that IF all housing codes and restrictions are eliminated. If I have to pay tax on my first dollar of income, I gotta cut my housing expense WAY down because housing consumes half my income.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Everybody a flat rate, no deductions. 10% 15%.... but that needs to cover STATE AND FEDERAL.

And when I say everyone, I mean anyone collecting ANY type of pension, unemployment or even government benefits...... if everyone put back into the system the everyone has some skin in the game.

And yes when I am on summer school break and collecting unemployment I do the voluntary 10% deduction.
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ITYM "withholding"?
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So the state gets the first 25% of your labor. Wasn't there a war fought to abolish slavery?
It's not slavery if they plow your road in the winter.

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Old 08-06-2017, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
The Libertarian in me says 0% of course.
However, the realist in me knows that's not possible.
So, I'd advocate a flat tax.
10% federal and up to but not more than 5% state (individual States can decide).
No deductions.
No exceptions.

Everyone pays the same % across the board.
First problem: Define "income"?
Same % for all, How is that fair?
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:05 PM
 
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Flat tax, 10% for everyone. No fathomable reason why the government needs almost 1/3 of my income to run a multi-trillion debt. Its unacceptable and irresponsible.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
What's a fair amount of theft? Hmmm good question, Ill say ZERO.
What do I win?
Someone needs to pay for improving our infrastructure. Who do you think should pay that.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Right, so let's just tax UNearned income.
Never thought of that. Very interesting. It's going to make starting new companies a challenge, of course. Makes the stock market kind of irrelevant and kills off the lottery as a source of money for the government.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Flat tax, 10% for everyone. No fathomable reason why the government needs almost 1/3 of my income to run a multi-trillion debt. Its unacceptable and irresponsible.
The argument is a flat tax of any percentage weighs more heavily on the lower income earners. The rich are different = they don't care about a tax like that.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:25 PM
 
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The argument is a flat tax of any percentage weighs more heavily on the lower income earners. The rich are different = they don't care about a tax like that.
I know what the argument is, I happen to disagree with it. 10% for all.
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