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For every woman having a so called "nervous breakdown" there has always been a man checked into the hospital for so called "exhaustion" which is the same difference lol.
Or dropped of a heart attack, or in alcohol rehab or suicide. We all get stressed. I'd rather have a breakdown and therapy than hold it in until I keel over.
On the bold, I've read most of it. You can find the entire document at the link below.
I personally didn't think it was "hate speech." Instead, I agree with what Google has said in that it reeked of stereotypes of women in particular.
He said this about women:
These all perpetuate stereotypes of women. Especially the "neuroticism" which is typical of sexist comments of men for hundreds of years. Many women have been locked in insane asylums due to complaints by the men in their life that they were "neurotic" or suffered from "hysteria."
We also have to note that when women are assertive (I am an assertive woman BTW in my career and have been labeled as follows) they are considered a "b*tch" while men are seen as "strong leaders." Women and girls are often encouraged, to this day to be more "lady like" (people have said this to my 9 year old daughter as I'm also raising her to be assertive and take advantage of her leadership characteristics).
The document was careful to use 'on average.' 'generally,' 'large overlaps,' and other modifiers. For example, women generally being more 'agreeable' leads to less negotiating over salary. Studies support that:
"Linda's book supports our earlier article based on a 2,000-person survey that found women are more apprehensive than men regarding negotiating and do it far less. Forty-six percent of men always negotiate salary following a job offer, compared to just 30% of women. And while 39% of men are apprehensive about negotiating, that number jumps to 55% for women."
How does that connect to this? How does a theme of unity **** people off? Aren't most folks in the US workers?
Simple, because taken within context, I was responding to another poster who wrote;
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Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust
Even though I personally disagree with firing him, I would've fired him too. It was simply necessary to avoid a massive public backlash/boycotts/etc. Google had a responsibility to its shareholders (myself included) to do this.
So I was trying to determine if this poster saw both sides of the coin.
Many companies will grease the squeaky wheel to avoid agitators and shakedown artists like Sharpton & Jackson from swooping in to demand XYZ.
However liberal minded companies seem to only want to suppress conservative minded thoughts, while themselves espousing liberalism with little fear of backlash.
So when Google has a doodle like this;
It disturbs a bunch of people. Sure I guess it delights communists, anarchists and the like, but many find it disturbing.
So, my point was that if the corporate culture is tolerant of leftist ideology, it should also be tolerant of conservative and traditional American culture as well. If it fires one employee for espousing one end of the political spectrum, then other employees espousing the opposite should also get the ax.
Google should be 51% female, 62% White, 16% Hispanic, 13% black, 5% Asian, 2% Jewish, 80% Christian, 95% American born, you know to reflect the community. Anyone who disagrees must be fired!
Another software engineer who used to work for Google, Kelly Ellis, says some women who still work at the company stayed home on Monday because the memo made them "uncomfortable going back to work."
Above quote from NPR source speaks volumes to me about this subject. I can't imagine doing this, but I'm not "average" and wouldn't let some memo make me "uncomfortable" much less stay home from work. Such BS.
You would stay home if you'd been indoctrinated to believe that words can physically harm you, and are no different than a physical attack. Funny, it's a woman who was too "soft" to go to work when a memo that didn't address her directly made her uncomfortable. I'm thinking the guy who wrote it was on the mark, eh?
The document was careful to use 'on average.' 'generally,' 'large overlaps,' and other modifiers. For example, women generally being more 'agreeable' leads to less negotiating over salary. Studies support that:
"Linda's book supports our earlier article based on a 2,000-person survey that found women are more apprehensive than men regarding negotiating and do it far less. Forty-six percent of men always negotiate salary following a job offer, compared to just 30% of women. And while 39% of men are apprehensive about negotiating, that number jumps to 55% for women."
That doesn't mean you or any other specific woman isn't a great salary negotiator or a specific male will negotiate.
I made no personal comments about my abilities as a salary negotiator in my comment. The post you quoted was specific to the fact that the author of the memo stereotyped women with certain, historically stereotypical characteristics - like being neurotic and anxious.
He was terminated due to stereotyping women. He did indeed stereotype women based on the words I quoted.
Maybe was wrong, but it's a private company matter. It is not Protected Speech. Google is free to do what it wants here. If you don't like it, your remedy is to avoid Google products and services.
The document was careful to use 'on average.' 'generally,' 'large overlaps,' and other modifiers. For example, women generally being more 'agreeable' leads to less negotiating over salary. Studies support that:
"Linda's book supports our earlier article based on a 2,000-person survey that found women are more apprehensive than men regarding negotiating and do it far less. Forty-six percent of men always negotiate salary following a job offer, compared to just 30% of women. And while 39% of men are apprehensive about negotiating, that number jumps to 55% for women."
That doesn't mean you or any other specific woman isn't a great salary negotiator or a specific male will negotiate.
You shouldn't have to negotiate. Why is this a positive? Pay people the same to start and give them raises when they perform well. You shouldn't have to beg or deal about this like a used car. I simply refuse to negotiate on anything anymore, I cannot stand sales games, and it doesn't matter what gender someone is, it is annoying - the people who win in sales tend to be the biggest jerks.
What's amusing is that Damore wasn't even condemning diversity. This just shows that the regressive left has below 40 IQ.
So why are the conservatives here are taking him as some sort of anti-diversity hero. Below 30 IQ.... or really just the fact that the discussion has evolved into not just what he said but what the implication is?
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Below 30 IQ.... or really just the fact that the discussion has evolved into not just what he said but what the implication is?
