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How is it "controversial" that men, as a whole, are more driven towards status than women are?
I don't get it.
Maybe because you took a 10 page manifesto and you picked out only 1 point from it? ...... let me ask you, do you think it's controversial to tell your boss, "The average woman is neurotic and can't handle stress well" if that person is a woman? What about telling your boss, who's black, "Most black people are uneducated" (technically degree attainment is lower)? To me, this is the controversial part. Seems simple to me... even if true, it's ill-advised.
You haven't read the memo, and he's definitely not a conservative. You'd know that if you read the memo. Is it too much trouble for you to try to know what you're talking about? Here it is:
Again fair. Compared to, say, my company, which has right around the same number of employees as Google, there is a far broader range of perspectives and worldviews that are part of the culture. People here aren't actively discouraged from any particular viewpoint, as is done at Google (source: I have a friend who works in a division of Alphabet).
[Doesn't mean it's a good idea to post up your personal cultural, social, and political views for all to see, of course.]
I think the world at large should realize this about this company.
ITA. The valley in general, is pretty ageist and intolerant of different backgrounds and ideas.
You're so full of it I hardly know why I'm bothering.
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It couldn't be more obvious he is a conservative.
So a true classical liberal, someone who values free expression and the marketplace of ideas, wouldn't ever be concerned about a monoculture echo-chamber? You seem to have a child-like, one-dimensional view of sociopolitical philosophies.
Sometimes I forget why I put a particular person on Ignore previously, but not with you.
Why would anybody care about gender or race at work?
Didn't the broflake in question pen 10 pages making it clear that he cared a lot?
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Women, on average, have more: Neuroticism (higher anxiety, lower stress tolerance).
Those are his words, correct? And if he (and you) can't see why this is a problem, try imagining being a woman assigned to a project with this guy. Will he assume you're neurotic, will he treat you like you're hired to meet a ratio (that's the implication in his manifesto) or will he try to convey that you meet with his approval, you're not like those others? Because none of those are really beneficial for a good working relationship.
Not that his reasoning matters overly much - write a manifesto about your company's hiring culture being all wrong, and you're very likely to get a suggestion to seek employment with an employer that is more aligned with your values.
Different viewpoint? A viewpoint that espouses sexism and hate should be tolerated at work?
WTF? You cons are some scary people.
Oh right. Anything that the left disagrees with is hate speech. We forgot. Our bad.
Just a hint: refusing to discuss these issues, and shrieking "sexist" and "hate speech" every time someone voices their opinion in an attempt to open up the discussion, means NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE.
Didn't the broflake in question pen 10 pages making it clear that he cared a lot? Those are his words, correct? And if he (and you) can't see why this is a problem, try imagining being a woman assigned to a project with this guy. Will he assume you're neurotic, will he treat you like you're hired to meet a ratio (that's the implication in his manifesto) or will he try to convey that you meet with his approval, you're not like those others? Because none of those are really beneficial for a good working relationship.
Not that his reasoning matters overly much - write a manifesto about your company's hiring culture being all wrong, and you're very likely to get a suggestion to seek employment with an employer that is more aligned with your values.
Oh I totally agree with you that he should've been fired. Like I said in my earlier comment, putting out "truths" without recognizing the context of the situation is very ill-advised.
Maybe because you took a 10 page manifesto and you picked out only 1 point from it? ...... let me ask you, do you think it's controversial to tell your boss, "The average woman is neurotic and can't handle stress well" if that person is a woman? What about telling your boss, who's black, "Most black people are uneducated" (technically degree attainment is lower)? To me, this is the controversial part. Seems simple to me... even if true, it's ill-advised.
I thought he was responding to a series of accusations of sexism leveled towards Google based on the existence of a gender disparity in the composition of its employees.
Didn't the broflake in question pen 10 pages making it clear that he cared a lot? Those are his words, correct? And if he (and you) can't see why this is a problem, try imagining being a woman assigned to a project with this guy. Will he assume you're neurotic, will he treat you like you're hired to meet a ratio (that's the implication in his manifesto) or will he try to convey that you meet with his approval, you're not like those others?
LOL. Welcome to the real world. Everyone stereotypes, and everyone is subjected to stereotypes. It's unavoidable and to be expected in every interaction. You'd have to be really neurotic () to have any concern about interacting with this guy based on what's in the memo, which simply shows that he's aware of stereotypes that anyone else you worked with would probably share.
And there's no reason to think the stereotype would carry more weight than the observation of an individual's traits.
Also, nice job of commenting on something you didn't read or understand. The memo was intended to help Google attract female employees in a way that would not imply they were unqualified. As it is, the company's current policy *is* to hire women just to "meet a ratio".
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