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Old 08-09-2017, 06:17 AM
 
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Liberals are the least tolerant people. They are tolerant when they receive entitlements and get money from others.

Once liberals have to start paying they change their tolerant tone!
That's funny. As a middle class liberal, I regularly vote to increase my own taxes. I get exactly zero benefit of them myself.
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Let's have liberals take in refugees into their own home and cities and pay for illegal aliens themselves!
We are looking into it right now, in fact.

 
Old 08-09-2017, 06:22 AM
 
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Here is the catch. Conservative don't "advertise" themselves as "all warm fuzzy" like liberals do. My liberals friends are all for socialism , helping minorities, defending LGBT but don't you dare say you are conservative, or that you believe capitalism is the only system that works in the real world.
The devil is in the details when one starts to discuss WHY these beliefs are held. Capitalism is certainly the only system in the world that works for generating unmitigated profits for corporations. And some form of capitalism is good for generating innovation that drives much of the economic sector. But unregulated, unrestrained capitalism is simply never going to be good for those lacking in opportunity who will always be forced into subjugation by pure profit margin. History bears this out. Trickle down economics don't work. History bears this out.

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Then they become very hostile. Here in Brazil where i currently reside. The liberals, preach acceptance and equality but are violent to anyone who dares to think different and support the right...
I have never seen this personally though I have seen reports on the news. It is too bad. Very counter productive.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 06:30 AM
 
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Liberalism/leftism/progressivism requires full compliance by all members of society in order to work correctly, even at the theoretical level. The provider class in any redistributive economic system must be as willing to participate as the beneficiary class is, but very rarely is. The need to force compliance is often necessary. This is why leftism has always been accompanied by extreme and often violent intolerance of dissent wherever and whenever it has been imposed on a nation or culture.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 06:30 AM
 
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They're both obnoxious.

Conservatives ratting on pot and gays, completely ignoring that pot is basically harmless and that people should be able to live the way they want as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.

Liberals ratting on free speech and pushing to let anyone and everyone in and being suprised when we have gun violence than blaming the gun.
You do know that the vast majority of gun violence is perpetuated by home growns, right?

Still relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OZIOE6aMBk
 
Old 08-09-2017, 06:31 AM
 
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So, many of my liberals friends are so proud about how tolerant they and their liberal peers are. Yet, what i have observed is that they are tolerant only to people that think exactly like them...What's up with that?
For the same reason many conservatives are very intolerant. The attitude of "look out for #1 and forget everyone else". There is also a mentality of "if you're way of thinking is opposite of mine, you're a threat to me". There is intolerance coming from both conservatives and liberals, so don't play that game.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 06:34 AM
 
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Liberalism/leftism/progressivism requires full compliance by all members of society in order to work correctly, even at the theoretical level. The provider class in any redistributive economic system must be as willing to participate as the beneficiary class is, but very rarely is. The need to force compliance is often necessary. This is why leftism has always been accompanied by extreme and often violent intolerance of dissent wherever and whenever it has been imposed on a nation or culture.
There is a difference between supporting leg up programs and hand out programs. Take education, always on the conservative chopping block. This is an investment in future self sufficiency. After school programs are the same. Or we just have another generation of kids from poor places who are unemployed and often incarcerated. The same for higher education for parents. Etcetera.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 06:36 AM
 
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For the same reason many conservatives are very intolerant. The attitude of "look out for #1 and forget everyone else". There is also a mentality of "if you're way of thinking is opposite of mine, you're a threat to me". There is intolerance coming from both conservatives and liberals, so don't play that game.
You missed the point someone mentioned earlier: both parties may be intolerant, but it's the liberals that paint themselves tolerant. Thus, hypocrisy.

I already know I'm an intolerant conservative. I don't pretend not to be.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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Does anyone EVER discuss actual policy on this board?
 
Old 08-09-2017, 06:39 AM
 
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Yeah, they should be so much more like conservatives who never try to shove their views down anyone elses throats. (I guess you have missed all of the conservatives who harass people at Planned Parenthood locations and those who want to keep everyone and anyone from entering this country)
But those conservatives aren't preaching tolerance. The point is the hypocrisy of a group that preaches tolerance but only shows it to those who think like they do. That's not tolerance.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 06:42 AM
 
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But those conservatives aren't preaching tolerance. The point is the hypocrisy of a group that preaches tolerance but only shows it to those who think like they do. That's not tolerance.
I would not call simply accepting a factless policy set tolerance. I would call engaging in useful dialog on fact based policy to be tolerance. Simply saying "I believe x" and saying Ok, let's legislate like that even though it is demonstrably a bad idea would be tolerance. I would call that foolhardiness.
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