Why are liberals so intolerant? hypocrisy? (enemy, legal, state, support)

[Pilot1]

Originally Posted by somebodynew

Thankfully the founding fathers allowed for the growth of the democracy.

Well, the founding fathers knew that we are NOT a Democracy, but a Constitutional Representative Republic. They knew Democracies were essentially MOB rule.

The problem with state control is that economy of scale cannot be used to lift poor communities. So rich communities get richer and poor communities stay poor. This is an economically bad idea for the nation for which the economy is important. These poor people are not ADDING to the economy.

Individuals are able to move from poor to rich, and some "rich" become poor. It is a constant state of flux.

[somebodynew]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

Well, the founding fathers new that we are NOT a Democracy, but a Constitutional Representative Republic. They knew Democracies were essentially MOB rule.





Individuals are able to move from poor to rich, and some "rich" become poor. It is a constant state of flux.

You really think that? Do you know a lot of poor people? Do you know how much it costs to move? And that they don't start with the economic wherewithal to get housing in rich places? The idea that it is in a constant state of flux on a macro scale is indefensible by history and evidence.

[survivingearth]

Originally Posted by Uncle Bully

Liberalism/leftism/progressivism requires full compliance by all members of society in order to work correctly, even at the theoretical level. The provider class in any redistributive economic system must be as willing to participate as the beneficiary class is, but very rarely is. The need to force compliance is often necessary. This is why leftism has always been accompanied by extreme and often violent intolerance of dissent wherever and whenever it has been imposed on a nation or culture.

Only at the theoretical level. Even in the perfect scenario, it wouldn't work. It sounds good but that's about it.

[maineguy8888]

http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/the-t...a-twitter.html


This is but one glimpse into the madhouse world of today's insane left.
They have blown right past Orwell, Dilbert and Kafka..........we're into uncharted territory now!! lol


Seriously, it's as if Orwell and Koestler never wrote a single word; as if Terry Gilliam never made "Brazil"; as if the Cultural Revolution never took place. These people are absolutely, full-on, utterly and completely insane. Bonkers.
And not in a "GOOD" way, either.........lol..............in a really, really evil, terrible, wicked way.

[Pilot1]

Originally Posted by somebodynew

You really think that? Do you know a lot of poor people? Do you know how much it costs to move? And that they don't start with the economic wherewithal to get housing in rich places? The idea that it is in a constant state of flux on a macro scale is indefensible by history and evidence.

I know a lot of poor people that came to this country with nothing, and became very, very successful. It happens all the time. They either got training, and education, and scrimped, and saved, and then got better, and better jobs. Some started their own businesses, worked hard, and became successful that way. So yes, I have.

[Pruzhany]

Originally Posted by survivingearth

So, many of my liberals friends are so proud about how tolerant they and their liberal peers are. Yet, what i have observed is that they are tolerant only to people that think exactly like them...What's up with that?

Liberals are tolerant of Muslims who've committed atrocities yet are intolerant of Israelis (Jews) who do what they do to survive.

Rasmea Odeh comes to mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhITiw9g1Yk

[Wee-Bey]

Originally Posted by survivingearth

So, many of my liberals friends are so proud about how tolerant they and their liberal peers are. Yet, what i have observed is that they are tolerant only to people that think exactly like them...What's up with that?

I realized this when I was about 10. My parents were/are highly liberal academics and I grew up in a household filled with their students and fellow faculty of the same persuasion. They are extremely well educated, intelligent, well meaning people and a cornerstone of their belief system is tolerance and yet at a very young age I began to realize just how judgmental they actually were. I always had a curious and somewhat contrarian nature so I questioned a lot of what they taught us. Their answers were always reasonable and well thought out but so tinged with an obvious judgmental condescending tone. Not so much towards the subject of the question but towards the questioner themselves. To question their approved belief system was a sign of a deficiency. Calling to their attention this judgmental intolerance towards a difference in perspective was met with blank stares of incomprehension and shock. Almost as if you revealed to someone that they had a split personality they were completely unaware of. This is a salient characteristic of liberals and it's not a new one. My folks are great people who taught me great things and exposed me to many wonderful experiences but their political ideology and the baggage that comes with it was something I decided I didn't need to carry forward. Suffice to say I've forgotten more about the workings of liberal mental machinery than most of you will ever know.

Here's a bit of advice for those of you who have a conservative bent and want to maintain a good relationship with liberal friends/family in these divisive times - My folks and I have a great relationship to this day but a big part of that is due to how I have to manage and steer the dynamic. They won't participate in that, it's up to me. They're very vocal and in your face about politics and love nothing more than to debate ... or what they think of as debate. Actually it's a one-dimensional monologue and if you disagree then things go downhill and it turns emotional for them. I handle this by finessing them into lines of discussion other than politics. Humor, light mockery when they moralize and diversion of the conversation towards consequential things, i.e. "real life" works well for me. I hate to tell you this, fellow apostates, but if you want a relationship it's going to be on you. They won't budge. Swallow your objections and be the adult. I'm mellow now and the whole thing is almost comical to me and my wife as we make the trip out to their farm for weekly visits. We psych ourselves up into a unified team of liberal management and mental jiu jitsu to make things work. Soldier on folks. You've gotta bend so that they don't break

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Wee-Bey

I realized this when I was about 10. My parents were/are highly liberal academics and I grew up in a household filled with their students and fellow faculty of the same persuasion. They are extremely well educated, intelligent, well meaning people and a cornerstone of their belief system is tolerance and yet at a very young age I began to realize just how judgmental they actually were. I always had a curious and somewhat contrarian nature so I questioned a lot of what they taught us. Their answers were always reasonable and well thought out but so tinged with an obvious judgmental condescending tone. Not so much towards the subject of the question but towards the questioner themselves. To question their approved belief system was a sign of a deficiency. Calling to their attention this judgmental intolerance towards a difference in perspective was met with blank stares of incomprehension and shock. Almost as if you revealed to someone that they had a split personality they were completely unaware of. This is a salient characteristic of liberals and it's not a new one. My folks are great people who taught me great things and exposed me to many wonderful experiences but their political ideology and the baggage that comes with it was something I decided I didn't need to carry forward. Suffice to say I've forgotten more about the workings of liberal mental machinery than most of you will ever know.

Here's a bit of advice for those of you who have a conservative bent and want to maintain a good relationship with liberal friends/family in these divisive times - My folks and I have a great relationship to this day but a big part of that is due to how I have to manage and steer the dynamic. They won't participate in that, it's up to me. They're very vocal and in your face about politics and love nothing more than to debate ... or what they think of as debate. Actually it's a one-dimensional monologue and if you disagree then things go downhill and it turns emotional for them. I handle this by finessing them into lines of discussion other than politics. Humor, light mockery when they moralize and diversion of the conversation towards consequential things, i.e. "real life" works well for me. I hate to tell you this, fellow apostates, but if you want a relationship it's going to be on you. They won't budge. Swallow your objections and be the adult. I'm mellow now and the whole thing is almost comical to me and my wife as we make the trip out to their farm for weekly visits. We psych ourselves up into a unified team of liberal management and mental jiu jitsu to make things work. Soldier on folks. You've gotta bend so that they don't break

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[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by survivingearth

Here is the catch. Conservative don't "advertise" themselves as "all warm fuzzy" like liberals do. My liberals friends are all for socialism , helping minorities, defending LGBT but don't you dare say you are conservative, or that you believe capitalism is the only system that works in the real world. Then they become very hostile. Here in Brazil where i currently reside. The liberals, preach acceptance and equality but are violent to anyone who dares to think different and support the right...

As a liberal, I must've missed the part where we were supposed to be "warm and fuzzy" and accepting of everything everyone believes, does or says. If someone believes that, they really have no honest understanding of what being liberal is or what those beliefs entail. In fact, I'd go as far as saying that the whole "liberals are supposed to be tolerant of everything" is entirely a conservative-made straw man built for the sole purpose of tearing down when it's convenient, such as in one of these ridiculous threads.
Let's just state the obvious: Liberals are not tolerant of everything and never have been. Nor should they be. I'm pretty satisfied being intolerant of things like racism, LGBT discrimination or support for presidents who disgrace the office and endanger the country with endless *sshattery. The real problem some conservatives have with social liberals is that they don't like that their backwards, ignorant views are pointed out and maligned. Well, too bad. If you don't like it, maybe learn to be a better human being.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by nurider2002

Let me put your minds at ease. I consider myself very liberal, compared to most posters here and, I do NOT consider myself at all tolerant of conservative values. No apology. Proud to be an intolerant liberal.

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