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Let's see: the rule of law..........or cheap lettuce.....................
Hmmmm.........hmm........what to choose..........what to choose........................
Let's see: the rule of law..........or cheap lettuce.....................
Hmmmm.........hmm........what to choose..........what to choose........................
Hmmm did the greedy corporate farm pass on the savings of using illegal labor????? Hmmmmmm I don't believe that they did.
If we want to eat cheap American chicken, then we have to allow enough people to work in the chicken farms, wherever they may come from or what they look like or what language they speak.
Close the doors, and the chicken won't be cheap anymore, because no chicken ranch will grow more chicken than it can process.
So the price of chicken will go up. No chicken farmer wants to feed a chicken that won't make him a buck by never leaving the farm.
And that means all the cheap chicken will come from Mexico. It won't be as cheap, because it comes from Mexico, but it will still be cheaper than American chicken. If enough people want cheap chicken, then that means the American chicken farms will close up because no one wants to buy expensive American chicken.
And when the American farms close up, some smart Mexican chicken farmer will think- "Hey! I don't have to sell my chicken so cheap anymore! There's no American competition!" So the prices go up anyway in the end.
How many people do you know who have ever butchered a chicken in your life? How many folks do you know who are eager to go to work in a chicken house, butchering chickens, as a big upward career move?
I can do it. I've done it.
I grew up on a farm at a time when folks on farms still kept chickens and ate them after doing everything themselves. It isn't hard or complicated, but its nasty work any 10-year old can do. And doing a chicken once in a while isn't so bad, even though it is nasty. Home-grown lets you pick out the fattest one. Or the one who wants to peck a hole in your leg every time it sees you.
But I don't want to do it all day long, every day, day after day, year after year.
No thanks.
I would just as soon not have a life of daily chicken guts and feathers to look forward to. I can't even butcher one grown in my back yard where I live, because the city would make me get rid of a chicken coop.
But there are people out there, beyond our borders who would, willingly and happily. It sure beats anything they have now.
So it's our choice. Either pay more, kill 'em yourself, or allow someone else to do it for low wages. Which do you prefer?
I used to have to help butcher chickens and pluck them when I was a kid...never again. And you're right, no one wants to work in poultry processing plants, it's horrible work. It's all done on an ever moving assembly line that moves so fast that chickens go halfway through the process alive because someone down the line missed the kill. And poultry processing plants love undocumented workers, they don't complain, ask for time off & they will take $500 for an accident rather than filing a comp claim.
Some processing plants are hiring refugees, but they treat them as poorly as they do undocumented people & they leave as soon as they can. It's clear the people who have options will never work in these places.
"In a report issued last year called "No Relief," Oxfam charged that workers at the four largest U.S. poultry companies — Tyson Foods, Sanderson Farms, Perdue Farms and Pilgrim's Pride — are routinely denied bathroom breaks, forcing some to wear adult diapers to work and others to urinate on themselves in order to avoid retribution from supervisors."
The machine “literally ripped off his left leg,” medical reports said, leaving it hanging by a frayed ligament and a five-inch flap of skin. Osiel was rushed to Mercy Medical Center, where surgeons amputated his lower leg. He got the job at Case Farms with a driver’s license that said his name was Francisco Sepulveda, age twenty-eight. The photograph on the I.D. was of his older brother, who looked nothing like him, but nobody asked any questions. Back at the plant, Osiel’s supervisors hurriedly demanded workers’ identification papers... Within days, Osiel and several others—all underage and undocumented—were fired.
And you can bet that DHS under Trump will not be doing raids looking for "illegal immigrants" at Tyson chicken any time soon. Trump's deportation talk is just that - talk. Pick off a few people here and there and give a press release, then turn a blind eye to the corporations who hire, and want to keep hiring, the vast majority of undocumented people.
I used to have to help butcher chickens and pluck them when I was a kid...never again. And you're right, no one wants to work in poultry processing plants, it's horrible work. It's all done on an ever moving assembly line that moves so fast that chickens go halfway through the process alive because someone down the line missed the kill. And poultry processing plants love undocumented workers, they don't complain, ask for time off & they will take $500 for an accident rather than filing a comp claim.
Some processing plants are hiring refugees, but they treat them as poorly as they do undocumented people & they leave as soon as they can. It's clear the people who have options will never work in these places.
"In a report issued last year called "No Relief," Oxfam charged that workers at the four largest U.S. poultry companies — Tyson Foods, Sanderson Farms, Perdue Farms and Pilgrim's Pride — are routinely denied bathroom breaks, forcing some to wear adult diapers to work and others to urinate on themselves in order to avoid retribution from supervisors."
The machine “literally ripped off his left leg,” medical reports said, leaving it hanging by a frayed ligament and a five-inch flap of skin. Osiel was rushed to Mercy Medical Center, where surgeons amputated his lower leg. He got the job at Case Farms with a driver’s license that said his name was Francisco Sepulveda, age twenty-eight. The photograph on the I.D. was of his older brother, who looked nothing like him, but nobody asked any questions. Back at the plant, Osiel’s supervisors hurriedly demanded workers’ identification papers... Within days, Osiel and several others—all underage and undocumented—were fired.
And you can bet that DHS under Trump will not be doing raids looking for "illegal immigrants" at Tyson chicken any time soon. Trump's deportation talk is just that - talk. Pick off a few people here and there and give a press release, then turn a blind eye to the corporations who hire, and want to keep hiring, the vast majority of undocumented people.
WTF are you bitching about? You love the illegals.
Hmmm did the greedy corporate farm pass on the savings of using illegal labor????? Hmmmmmm I don't believe that they did.
This is true. I dont have the link now but I read where research shows if wages increase by a certain percentage for those picking crops it would not affect the price at the grocery store. That would tell me any money saved is going into the corporate farm pocket.
You tell the prisoners if they want an inside, sheltered cell they work picking crops and they work hard. If they choose to not work you give them a tent and a sleeping bag and have them sleep outside inside a fenced in area with basic food and no perks.
WTF are you bitching about? You love the illegals.
Yep, they are illegals not "undocumented" as the illegal loving poster constantly referred to them. E-verify is in Trump's 2018 budget so yes he is going after those who hire them.
What happened to all the American's that would pick crops like in "The Grapes of Wrath"?
Um, we've come a long ways from the Grapes of Wrath era. Picking crops is not a career job for Americans today and is only seasonal work. However, there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign crop pickers.
There is nothing ethnophobic about wanting our immigration laws respected and enforced. The ethnocentrics are those who think their ethnic group is above our immigration laws, wants amnesty for them and open borders for their ethnic group.
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