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The US Civil War was about a lot more than just slavery and I don't see the need to whitewash General Lee from history in order to please some liberal agenda. Slavery wasn't right but you can't just whitewash history or you will never learn from the past.
Btw Lee's acestral home in Shropshire in England was up for sale earlier this year.
If they have to move the statues, why not move them to the battlefields or a museum, as I am sure numerous people in Virginia lost ancestors in the Civil War and the issue is important to them.
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Lest we forget, the decision to remove the statue and rename the parks was made by the local city council, a body of five officials elected by the people of Charlottesville to four year terms. Generalizing this into a ***** session about "liberals" is a cheap shot. The people of Charlottesville decided to remove the statue through their City Council. Many of the counterprotestors were citizens who wanted the imported hate group that has invaded their town to go the hell away. (One woman, a teacher, actually sent her young black son away for the weekend, because she didn't want him to be subjected to this horror.) Don't talk to us about "liberals" wanting to erase southern history or to chase out Christianity. Charlottesville was INVADED by an outsider hate group who held them hostage for their own political gain and killed someone in the process!
Actually when the town decided to remove those monuments they brought this on themselves. It is well known that millions of people in this nation are angry with the removal of these monuments in other places, when they took down the confederate flag at SC statehouse huge flag rallies occurred throughout the south, even other parts of America. Everyone knows there is a HUGE backlash against political correctness underway, when they voted to remove the statue in Charlottesville they should have known they would attract political radicals from both sides. Thier loyalty to political correctness led them to do it anyway and this is the result. I am not defending the racists, I do not support that kind of trash, however a Antifa is a hate group too, as is BLM. No doubt most residents of the town were ignorant of what they started by removing the statues, but thier elected officials should have known better.
Did I make a cheap shot against liberals as you said I did? Maybe. I'll admit I hate the modern left and what it believes in. I won't deny that I take every opportunity to get one in against the snowflakes that I can. What the far left has done in recent years is force a value system (political correctness, socialism) upon people who do not want it. In fact much of it has been done by violating the constitution IMO. The gay marriage thing from the courts is one of the most recent examples. Red state America hates this stuff, resents the violation of our rights. I blame liberals for the violence because what they have forced upon us has driven some to violence, and as we saw after the election liberals also are using violence. We are a nation careening toward civil war. Since it is the left trying to radically change our society against its will I do blame them.
At this point law enforcement needs to round up all those on video engaged in violence, both sides of course. They are all a bunch of animals and they can continue thier arguing from inside a jail cell. Sadly though locking them up will not stop it. These radicals are committed on both sides, more trouble looms.
OMG, are you actually defending them by stating that the people of Charlottesville have no right to decide local matters? We're talking about a freakng stone statue, which resulted in an INVASION by a hate group and the death of a woman who might very well have been a local. You disgust me.
The Klan made it about hate ever since they jacked them out of their Confederate symbols 70 years ago. This is why those who claim they represent heritage are merely a bunch of cowards because they've never even attempted to take them back from the Klan all these years and have the nerve to talk tough.
Lest we forget, the decision to remove the statue and rename the parks was made by the local city council, a body of five officials elected by the people of Charlottesville to four year terms. Generalizing this into a ***** session about "liberals" is a cheap shot. The people of Charlottesville decided to remove the statue through their own elected officials. Many of the counterprotestors were citizens who wanted the imported hate group that has invaded their town to go the hell away. (One woman, a teacher, actually sent her young black son away for the weekend, because she didn't want him to be subjected to this horror.) Don't talk to us about "liberals" wanting to erase southern history or to chase out Christianity. Charlottesville was INVADED by an outsider hate group who held them hostage for their own political gain and killed someone in the process!
Exactly.
Charlottesville citizens voted in a city council that decided to remove the statues. This is how democracy works.
I watched video clips lines of Charlottesville citizens holding hands and singing hymns to drown out the Nazi talk. They looked like Christians to me. I'd like to think Christians wouldn't be marching with torches chanting Nazi slogans but who knows these days.
Anyway, a group of men came to Charlottesville to cause trouble.
The US Civil War was about a lot more than just slavery and I don't see the need to whitewash General Lee from history in order to please some liberal agenda. Slavery wasn't right but you can't just whitewash history or you will never learn from the past.
Btw Lee's acestral home in Shropshire in England was up for sale earlier this year.
If they have to move the statues, why not move them to the battlefields or a museum, as I am numerous people in Virginia lost ancestors in the Civil War and the issue is important to them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be me. I lost many ancestors to the Civil War, including more than a few on the side of the Confederacy. Once again, it's freaking statue, which the people of Charlottesville through their elected officials decided to remove, resulting in an INVASION by outsiders who held their city hostage and KILLED SOMEONE, because they apparently don't believe that residents of Charlottesville have the right to self-determination. But it's all about that crazy liberal agenda.
You disgust me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be me. I lost many ancestors to the Civil War, including more than a few on the side of the Confederacy. Once again, it's freaking stone statue, which the people of Charlottesville through the elected officials decided to remove, resulting in an INVASION by outsiders who held their city hostage and KILLED SOMEONE, because they apparently don't believe that residents of Charlottesville have the right to self-determination. But it's all about that crazy liberal agenda.
You disgust me.
If moving the statue to a museum or to a battlefield as a monument, offers a compromise or some form of solution to the current violence, then so be it.
The statue will be out of the town and placed somewhere where those interested in Civil War History can visit.
I don't see what is so disgusting about this idea or my opinion.
Please explain why David Duke is a clown ? He is fighting for "your" way of life and "southern pride".... He had the stones to SHOW up to protect your SOUTHERN "Patriots" statue... Where were you?
You really do not understand what I and many others believe in. I am conservative, I believe in Jesus and Gods word, i support traditional values, I do support the principles of states rights and southern rights fought for by the confederate states of America. That being said almost everyone, myself included acknowledge slavery was wrong. However the whole nation was wrong about how the enslaved Africans were treated, not just the south because it was economically trapped by it. The confederacy was an attempt to preserve the America that the constitution established, not the one we have today. I support displaying the confederate flag, support monuments to southern patriots. I support honoring those who fought for the confederacy as much as those who fought in other American wars. I also support monuments to peaceful civil rights icons like MLK. Being proud of southern history does not mean being a racist or supporting racists. David Duke was a kkk leader and a violent racist. Men displaying nazi flags do not speak for the south or any American for that matter. If you look at the sons of the confederacy website you will see what is an appropriate view of confederate history. They honor confederate veterans without supporting racist like Duke. Please do not think we support the likes of David Duke. The way those people acted today in Virginia did not help us in anyway, really it is just red meat for those who want to connect true conservative people like me to racist trash like David Duke.
May I ask why does it matter to someone in New York whether or not a confederate flag flies in Tennessee or a statue stands to the confederacy in Georgia or Virginia? There is a sense of our national history being under attack here, southern culture under attack. This is why people are so mad. It's not just Nazis like the ones on TV but regular folks who are tired of this stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be me. I lost many ancestors to the Civil War, including more than a few on the side of the Confederacy. Once again, it's freaking stone statue, which the people of Charlottesville through the elected officials decided to remove, resulting in an INVASION by outsiders who held their city hostage and KILLED SOMEONE, because they apparently don't believe that residents of Charlottesville have the right to self-determination. ...
Lot of people lost ancestors in the Civil War.
Lot of people aren't even here because of the Civil War.
The Civil War is a shameful time in our history. Not something to celebrate or glorify.
Don't worry. Robert E. Lee will not be forgotten.
More's the pity.
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