Charlottesville Protests (generation, lawyers, weapons, nationalist)

[Cammila]

Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow

At what point did I ever excuse them. Please quote, verbatim, where I made excuses for Nazis.

I WILL defend EVERYONE'S right to the 1st Amendment whether I like what they say or not. I support our Constitutional rights, that's not "defending Nazis" that's defending EVERYONE'S rights at all times.

As for your racist accusation, you're walking a fine line. You've already directly insulted me in 2 posts. Want to go for a third?

What an altruist, your commitment with freedom is tear inducing, what a stand up fellow

Now, about those RIGHTS you mention

Are Nazis right to protest more important than MILLONS of non white people right to exist?

You have, at some point, to make a moral choice, you cant equate two rights as if they are the same. If someone goes spreading the word that all women have to be raped and killed, that right is not as important as my right to NOT be raped and killed.

Morally equating the two is repugnant. And the sign of a true nazi.



If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality

[tinytrump]

I am tired of trying to explain it-- how did the bible put it-- the dead know nothing

but he will reap what he sows sooner or later

[James420]

Jesus, I've said this since it happened, both sides are to blame. Which means on this issue, Trump and I agree. I'm not turning in my democrat card but I am scheduling therapy.

[Tall Traveler]

Originally Posted by HarborRat

He nailed that press conference! Finally, a president telling the truth.

One thing liberals despise more than anything.....the truth

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by burdell

And? How many more 'til it's "the vast majority"?

Given Trump only condemned those groups after a period of time, I'd say it's at best iffy.

You would also have to take a Trump supporter at their word. No thanks.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by FinsterRufus

Sigh. You really lost any credibility there.

Nazis abhor socialism and communism. They are the farthest right of the far authoritarian right wing. Which is neither Republican nor Democrat.

Oh, bless your heart... Educate yourself:

"Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal, will of man as a historic entity. It is opposed to classical liberalism which arose as a reaction to absolutism and exhausted its historical function when the State became the expression of the conscience and will of the people. Liberalism denied the State in the name of the individual; Fascism reasserts the rights of the State as expressing the real essence of the individual." -Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile, The Doctrine of Fascism, 1923

"For Fascism, society is the end, individuals the means, and its whole life consists in using individuals as instruments for its social ends." - Alfredo Rocco, Mussolini's Minister of Justice, speaking at Perugia, August 30, 1925

"The higher interests involved in the life of the whole...must set the limits and lay down the duties of the interests of the individual." -Hitler, speaking at Bueckeburg, October 7, 1933

Both of the latter two are describing socialism, which is left-wing. Both are advocating subjucating the individual to benefit the collective society. That is NOT right-wing ideology.

The word "fascism" includes fascis as its root. The meaning is "bundle" and it is used to represent collective power. Collectivism. Fascism is left-wing at its very roots.

[Redd Jedd]

Originally Posted by emm74

actually, it's EXACTLY what he meant. He said there were some "very fine" white supremacists. His exact words.
Trump lashes out at 'alt-left' in Charlottesville, says 'fine people on both sides' - ABC News


And no, Antifa didn't show up to create a massive fight, the Neo Nazis were the instigators - the Right/Alt-Right owns this.

One group showed up in body armor, carrying shields and had tiki torches that were used as clubs.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by tinytrump

papi bannon was not happy with him-trying to fix it

Bannon will be fine. Trump is afraid of what Bannon would do if he went back to Breitbart. I would not be surprised if it was Bannon that told Trump to blame both sides.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by phantompilot

That's a lot of nonsense. As near as I can tell, "white nationalism" is nothing more than arguing the demographics of the country should have remained as it was, without being engineered by Bolsheviks who acted out of anti-white animus, and who continue to propagate a genocide against white people, and against Western Civilization.

that is really over the top. Please look up the definition of 'genocide' and try this again.

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by Clark Park

A follow up on my previous post ...

White supremacists have also targeted the Jewish community ... there has been a dramatic increase in the desecration of synagogues and Jewish cemeteries since the being of this year.

Yah, but how many of those were committed by Jews themselves, like the thousands of bomb threats they phoned in on their own institutions as a massive "false flag" operation?

What is a "white supremacist" anyway? I'm still waiting to hear someone provide a definition of this term that the media insists on using to describe anyone who attended the "Unite the Right" rally.