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Old 08-16-2017, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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You realize of course that the conversation was about the interaction between the individuals the reporters were interviewing, right?
Assuming you have now watched the video, what do you now conclude in answer to your original question?

 
Old 08-16-2017, 12:55 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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As a member of neighborhood watch, Zimmerman was within his rights to demand to know who Trayvon was especially as he obviously didn't live there and was wandering around the community at night. Trayvon should have just identified himself like a normal person would have but he was under the influence of drugs that night and he came upon Zimmerman and attacked him, beating his head into the ground. No doubt Zimmerman did fear for his life. That is NOT a racial case, neither are the police cases in Baltimore, Baton Rouge, and Ferguson. There's no basis for BLM or for Kaepernick's protest.

And btw, the first amendment protests your right to free speech from the government, doesn't mean other private citizens, entities can't take action against you. The NFL commissioner, the team owners and coaches were within in their rights to tell Kaepernick that he either respect our flag or not play for them anymore. Their failure to do so shows that they also support the liberal left and BLM and their false narrative. This is the kind of thing that fosters divisions in our society. There's also how the liberal media and Democrats present the message that minority=Democrat, at a time when Democrats are pursuing the most radical, far left agenda in American history.
 
Old 08-16-2017, 01:18 AM
 
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Simple question-had the Charlottesville rally, held legally and with an issued permit-been allowed to happen with out the intervention of violent counter-protesters such as Antifa and BLM, would the rally have turned violent?

I mean, it's possible. Look at all the leftist demonstrations where property is destroyed, businesses looted, neighborhoods burned, highways and emergency services blocked. All when no counter-protesters showed up. So you can't say it isn't possible that the white supremacists would have turned to the same tactics. The question is-is it likely that it would have happened? Is there history in the recent past (say the last 10 years) of such things happening by such groups? Honestly-I don't know-I don't follow the acts of these ignorant a-hats. And is it likely that innocent people, with nothing to do with the protest that happened to be at the wrong place, would have been dragged out of their cars and beaten, simply due to their race? These thing did happened at BLM protests.

So, thoughts. Without counter-protesters would this particular group of ignorant racists have gotten as violent as left-wing protesters?
Why don't you view this video, from a woman who was there, peacefully holding a vigil at a church, and you can answer your own question:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFMHFlIozmw
 
Old 08-16-2017, 01:22 AM
 
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Or if you want to know how the "Unite the Right" organizers were advertising the event:

https://itsgoingdown.org/unite-right...guns-want-war/
 
Old 08-16-2017, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Both sides in that rally were deplorable, like literally the ideological offspring of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union with a bit of Nation of Islam/Black Panthers mixed in. Neo-Nazi racists vs radical socialists and black racists and illegal immigrants. Trump was absolutely right in denouncing both sides.
The Alt Right side has a psychotic-creepy-ick factor that makes my stomach turn.

The Alt Left side are perhaps the most annoying elitist d-bags on the face of the earth.

I don't know how someone could be attracted to either.
 
Old 08-16-2017, 01:24 AM
 
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Had they not brought in and organized the anti protestors and PAID many of them, and not actually brought in actors to portray the white supremacists to ape for the cameras, the event would have been much smaller and a non event. If anything people would have seen that despite wild and unfounded claims to the contrary, hate groups are in decline. The police could have handled the smaller crowds without incident.
That's the story the MSM is ignoring in their jihad against Trump. But the MSM is part of this coup.
 
Old 08-16-2017, 01:26 AM
 
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Had they not brought in and organized the anti protestors and PAID many of them, and not actually brought in actors to portray the white supremacists to ape for the cameras, the event would have been much smaller and a non event. If anything people would have seen that despite wild and unfounded claims to the contrary, hate groups are in decline. The police could have handled the smaller crowds without incident.
That's the story the MSM is ignoring in their jihad against Trump. But the MSM is part of this coup.
NOt true.

What the Unite the Right organizers wanted is described at this link:
https://itsgoingdown.org/unite-right...guns-want-war/

Below, an interview with a woman in Charlottesville who was actually THERE, unlike you or I.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFMHFlIozmw&t=2s
 
Old 08-16-2017, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Had they not brought in and organized the anti protestors and PAID many of them, and not actually brought in actors to portray the white supremacists to ape for the cameras, the event would have been much smaller and a non event. If anything people would have seen that despite wild and unfounded claims to the contrary, hate groups are in decline. The police could have handled the smaller crowds without incident.
That's the story the MSM is ignoring in their jihad against Trump. But the MSM is part of this coup.


Wait, you actually believe that the white supremacists AND the anti protestors were all actors???

Good god.

Are you Alex Jones?
 
Old 08-16-2017, 01:33 AM
 
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Toyman at Jewel Lake, I can't help but notice you still haven't responded. I hope you are sleeping on it and will awake tomorrow with some clarity. Hope springs eternal.
 
Old 08-16-2017, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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This is becoming surreal. Are we supposed to treat men carrying Nazi flags and torches through the streets shouting things like "Jews will not replace us" and signs saying "Whites are the Master Race" as if it's normal and accepted?

Watching Trump frantically defend them - his own daughter is Jewish. This country is taking a very dark turn.
The White Supremacists came to Charlottesville for the expressed purpose of engaging in violence. They found plenty of ways to do that and would have been very disappointed, if an impromptu opposition hadn't been there, on which to focus their hatred. They will do it again and again, if they're allowed to run loose. Each of those criminals should be identified and prosecuted fully.

There are those on the other side, who should have either stayed away from there or shown more moderation. Some may have gone there, just to take part in the violence, as though it was a video game. Those of them who are guilty, should also be charged and punished. Unless these kinds of confrontations are blocked, there's potential for some very bad trouble ahead. Neither of these groups really speak for any larger faction of people and I'm sure that most of the rest of us are appalled by these kinds of events.
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