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Old 08-23-2017, 10:22 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post
What's that got to do with the price of beans? I'm not playing "Socratic Seminar" with you, Pruz. You're an engineer, you say, not an attorney.
So "No". Then you must a abstract thinker as you have no understanding on how discussions are supposed to work.

 
Old 08-23-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It sounds as if the crowd was enthusiastic enough early in the evening, chanting, "Lock her up," (apparently, this never gets old with team Trump) and one thing and another.

But as Trump lurched from one rant to another -- "Hundreds left early, while others plopped down on the ground, scrolled through their social media feeds or started up a conversation with their neighbors."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.61b7144bee5b

Meanwhile, no one outside the truly faithful were buying into his excuses for how he responded to what went on in Charlottesville. He called the counter-protestors "Thugs" at several points.

What a sorry excuse for a president.
I noticed that even the "props" behind Trump began chatting among themselves, waving to the cameras, looking at their cell phones, etc... These "props" did at times raise their signs in unison as if on cue from instructions prior to the the rally.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 10:29 AM
 
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It will be brought up because defense tries whatever arguments it can find that won't annoy jurors (the above might). It was clear to anyone there that were demonstrators in the street and he was driving directly toward it. The pedestrian not being in the crosswalk might be a defense if it was accidental; driving at a decent clip into a crowd in the street regardless of whether the crowd legally belongs there is some category of homicide.



again, sure one could state why she was. But why is does it matter?
It doesn't matter how much she weighed, whether she was a "known activist" (Americans by the millions would meet that criteria), or whether or why she was in the street.

It is still against the law to run her down with a car and kill her.

Nor will it make any difference that someone hit his back bumper with a stick as he came barreling down the street, or that he hit people head on rather than turning to the sidewalk.

All of this is just dead cat nonsense.

I suspect his best chance to avoid a lengthy prison term is an insanity defense, that due to his mental illness he had a break with reality.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It doesn't matter how much she weighed, whether she was a "known activist" (Americans by the millions would meet that criteria), or whether or why she was in the street.

It is still against the law to run her down with a car and kill her.

Nor will it make any difference that someone hit his back bumper with a stick as he came barreling down the street, or that he hit people head on rather than turning to the sidewalk.

All of this is just dead cat nonsense.

I suspect his best chance to avoid a lengthy prison term is an insanity defense, that due to his mental illness he had a break with reality.
I suppose he could claim he did have a break with reality and thought he was playing Grand Theft Auto in his mother's basement.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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I suppose he could claim he did have a break with reality and thought he was playing Grand Theft Auto in his mother's basement.
Who knows?

But no defense attorney worth her/his retainer would go with the goofy arguments on this thread.

Given all the public attention to this, it is unlikely that the prosecuting attorney will plea this down.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
It sounds as if the crowd was enthusiastic enough early in the evening, chanting, "Lock her up," (apparently, this never gets old with team Trump) and one thing and another.

But as Trump lurched from one rant to another -- "Hundreds left early, while others plopped down on the ground, scrolled through their social media feeds or started up a conversation with their neighbors."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.61b7144bee5b

Meanwhile, no one outside the truly faithful were buying into his excuses for how he responded to what went on in Charlottesville. He called the counter-protestors "Thugs" at several points.

What a sorry excuse for a president.
Maybe those who left early were among the thousands of people who had lined up the triple-digit heat to attend Trump's political rally. Or they didn't want to get caught up in any post-rally mayhem.


Show me where in his speech he referred to the counter-protesters in Cville as thugs.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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Show me where in his speech he referred to the counter-protesters in Cville as thugs.

Did you not listen to his speech?

Do you not know how to use a search engine?

"Many in the crowd lit up at the use of the word “thugs” and applauded. Later in the evening, Trump would repeatedly use the same word to describe the protesters who showed up to his campaign rallies."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.61b7144bee5b
 
Old 08-23-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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Did you not listen to his speech?

Do you not know how to use a search engine?

"Many in the crowd lit up at the use of the word “thugs” and applauded. Later in the evening, Trump would repeatedly use the same word to describe the protesters who showed up to his campaign rallies."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.61b7144bee5b
I won't pay to read a WaPo article.

I read a transcript of the speech. Maybe the transcript is wrong. More likely, if you listened to it, you heard what you wanted to hear or are relying on snipped quotes from the article.

The other poster claimed Trump never mentioned the victim in his speech; the transcript shows he did.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The evidence will show that Fields was revving his engine for an intentional launch at the crowd.
No, it won't. That's a figment of your imagination.
 
Old 08-23-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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So "No". Then you must a abstract thinker as you have no understanding on how discussions are supposed to work.
"No" what? You didn't ask a yes/no question, and you're committing an ad hominem now.
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