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Seems odd that both liberals and some RINOs are constantly complaining that Trump REFUSED to blame the white nationalist movement for 100% of the violence, they demand he single them out for all the violence. BLM and antifa started the whole mess. But for some reason, no one is demanding they even be named, much less held responsible. Why?
Did they, though? I'm certainly no fan of antifa (I think they're misguided fools/idiots, who have way too much anarchist beliefs for my tastes), and BLM has certainly seen their share of controversy...
But let's be accurate here. Why were these people in VA this weekend? Be accurate.
And honestly does it really matter who "started it" at this point? I'm sure if you want to get technical, we can trace the routes of many disagreements back decades, or even centuries.
I suspect mainstream liberals are like mainstream conservatives -- they believe the most violent of these groups not to be representative of them and they aren't.
I don't hold conservatives to blame for the white supremacist groups at all. I also don't hold most liberals to blame for the radicalized ANTIFA or BLM either.
Let's just agree that both these radicalized groups are not acceptable and their violence not welcome.
The reason that folks would like Trump to call out specifically the white supremacists is because of their support of him. Trump has been asked before to denounce these people (he of course denounces ANTIFA and BLM -- they are liberal based -- lol) and he has refused. Trump doesn't seem to be afraid to go after violent liberals but seems to be hesitant about calling out the radicalized conservatives in his camp.
Sure - anyone blaming entire swaths of people for the actions of some idiots is not a wise person.
To your last point - you're kind of hitting a nail on the head here for why so many are upset with Trump's statements on this incident.
Sure - anyone blaming entire swaths of people for the actions of some idiots is not a wise person.
To your last point - you're kind of hitting a nail on the head here for why so many are upset with Trump's statements on this incident.
So, in a perfect liberal world, only white people are wrong? Again, why is no one demanding Trump condemn antifa and BLM? They were the parties that started the violence
I suspect mainstream liberals are like mainstream conservatives -- they believe the most violent of these groups not to be representative of them and they aren't.
I don't hold conservatives to blame for the white supremacist groups at all. I also don't hold most liberals to blame for the radicalized ANTIFA or BLM either.
Let's just agree that both these radicalized groups are not acceptable and their violence not welcome.
The reason that folks would like Trump to call out specifically the white supremacists is because of their support of him. Trump has been asked before to denounce these people (he of course denounces ANTIFA and BLM -- they are liberal based -- lol) and he has refused. Trump doesn't seem to be afraid to go after violent liberals but seems to be hesitant about calling out the radicalized conservatives in his camp.
He has condemned them. What are you talking about? I'm sure you could find numerous interviews where Trump condemned them, David Duke, and others. I bet I could find no instances of Obama or Hillary Clinton condemning BLM, and their protests have included violence and rioting and setting businesses on fire, not to mention the murder of six police officers in Dallas and the inspiration for several more murders of police.
And they're funded by George Soros, so they are directly funded to help one political party. These people in Charlotte aren't funded by anyone in power, and they aren't supported by 99% of the population. They are idiots on the margins.
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He has condemned them.
Yes he did.
Even if he had 'specifically named the white supremacists' it wouldn't have made any difference to the left, they would still find something to harp about. Both Cruz and Rubio did call out the white supremacists, and now they're being hammered by the NYT's over it. It doesn't really matter what is said by the right, the left is going to nitpick anyway.
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What are you talking about? I'm sure you could find numerous interviews where Trump condemned them, David Duke, and others. I bet I could find no instances of Obama or Hillary Clinton condemning BLM, and their protests have included violence and rioting and setting businesses on fire, not to mention the murder of six police officers in Dallas and the inspiration for several more murders of police.
And they're funded by George Soros, so they are directly funded to help one political party. These people in Charlotte aren't funded by anyone in power, and they aren't supported by 99% of the population. They are idiots on the margins.
Obama did make a speech, without specifically naming any group. And, while Obama was speaking he quickly jumped jumped off of the cop killing topic and on to the 'guns are bad' topic.
(sorry katygirl, it won't let me rep you right now)
If you dont know who antifa is, then i must question your grasp of current events. And yes, antifa is 80% white liberals btw
Got some evidence of that claim?
I don't know much about the antifa other than they're as ready to set to as the neo-Nazis are.
I suspect, though, that both groups are tiny in comparison to the numbers of peaceful Americans who use their rights of assembly. People can yell just as loud as they want here. On all sides of a dispute.
And so far, I haven't seen the antifa start anything. They show up at far-right rallies as a counter-protest, but the far right does exactly the same thing. Tit for tat. One side yells, the other yells back. If one side goes to blows, so does the other.
That's as American as apple pie. We've been doing that ever since our beginnings.
So, in a perfect liberal world, only white people are wrong? Again, why is no one demanding Trump condemn antifa and BLM? They were the parties that started the violence
Well I'm for one calling on Trump, Republicans, Democrats and the media to condemn the counter-protests-antifa, BLM and communist. And until that happens none of them have a shred of credibility or integrity.
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