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It's certainly a big reason why Donald Trump won in 2016 - and it's why the Elite Establishment Republicans are so against Trump. The Silent Majority finally saw a chance to elect someone who was not part of the UniParty, the Leftists or the Far Right.
The total Hysterical Meltdown began.
The Republican party typically represents the interests of the rich and super-rich. As advocates in that capacity they have done well. This started with the business owners profiting from the US civil war, so it is at the core of the party's origins.
The Democrats have typically represented the working class in their policies. This has been especially true since the end of US civil war but generally true since the days of Thomas Jefferson.
The working class is vastly greater in numbers than the wealthy, so if everyone voted by economic class interests the Republicans would never win.
Enter: the wedge issue!
Wedge issues are used to divide the working class electorate .. find one thing a segment of the population is passionate about and exploit it. This works well with one-issue voters.
Two big ones I can think of (there are many) would be guns and abortions. Inflame the people enough on that single issue and they will feel morally bound to vote against everything else that they need or want to conquer that issue. This is why those issues are seldom resolved ... they work so well decade after decade that the Republican party can not resolve them, for fear of losing influence over that group of voters.
Little wonder then, that many (if not most) Republican voters in the working class are frustrated with party leadership: it's one consistency has been taking care of the rich and corporate interests (many of which are actually foreign based). Working class concerns are not well handled by the party, but a lot of money is spent to make the voters feel good about their selections.
The Republican party typically represents the interests of the rich and super-rich. As advocates in that capacity they have done well. This started with the business owners profiting from the US civil war, so it is at the core of the party's origins.
The parties are very different than those times. Your comment is absurd.
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The Democrats have typically represented the working class in their policies. This has been especially true since the end of US civil war but generally true since the days of Thomas Jefferson.
No they haven't. Again the parties are very different than those times. Your comment is absurd.
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The working class is vastly greater in numbers than the wealthy, so if everyone voted by economic class interests the Republicans would never win.
Silly comment. You still haven't discussed policy. Granted yours are failures.
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Enter: the wedge issue!
Wedge issues are used to divide the working class electorate .. find one thing a segment of the population is passionate about and exploit it. This works well with one-issue voters.
No it doesn't.
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Two big ones I can think of (there are many) would be guns and abortions. Inflame the people enough on that single issue and they will feel morally bound to vote against everything else that they need or want to conquer that issue. This is why those issues are seldom resolved ... they work so well decade after decade that the Republican party can not resolve them, for fear of losing influence over that group of voters.
This isn't true either.
All rate the economy, terrorism, jobs and healthcare as important
Republicans put more priority on fixing government and the deficit
Democrats rate climate change, inequality as more important
Guns are usually 5th or lower with abortion around 10th most important or lower.
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Little wonder then, that many (if not most) Republican voters in the working class are frustrated with party leadership: it's one consistency has been taking care of the rich and corporate interests (many of which are actually foreign based). Working class concerns are not well handled by the party, but a lot of money is spent to make the voters feel good about their selections.
You made all this up and you have no proof.
Again nothing about policy. But when the policies you back are failures why not deflect from what's important.
That's my thoughts on voting period. Your vote really doesn't count people don't vote with their brains anymore, they vote for the lesser of two evil OR to keep the other out of office. Which is stupid either way. It's a vicious circle that gets us no where.
It's interesting that some posters in this thread think that the country started to go to Hell in a hand basket 104 years ago (1913) when constitutional amendments were enacted that allowed for a federal income tax and for the direct election of Senators.
You might not like them, but they were passed by a constitutional process, and it's damned unlikely that either will be repealed in the foreseeable future.
and the white nationalist fringe. The latter does not have much representation in Congress but is the most influential faction at the moment. Trump is their candidate. .
oh for sakes would you please stop spouting that crap. I am tired of the propaganda to paint Trump as some white supremacist. No solid proof is given they just chuck out the slander hoping people just believe it if they hear it enough. Show proof of him stating he is or him being a part of some organization.
I have criticized him on occasion depending the topic but I have never seen such a concentrated plot for character assassination as I have seen now from the left since he was elected. It is just pathetic.
The only reason those supremacist have any kind of voice is because the media has made them top news every chance they get to try to tie them to Trump. First is was he is a woman abuser, then a Russian collaborator , now is is he a white supremacist.
Trump sort of did that from the inside but look at so many of his mainstream republican appointees and how little the republican dominated congress has done and how little it has supported him
.They are even trying to get rid of Bannon,Gorka Miller .
You would have to replace literally to vote out the majority of republicans
I agree the reform party became a mess but its possible, the republican party started as a third party , it was barely a six-year-old party when lincoln became president with just 40% of the popular vote. Most of the issues that are on the rise like nationalism, racial issues, protectionism america first trade deals, immigration etc are anathema to the republican party.
Its why the congress will probably accomplish so little.
The Congress is doing exactly what we need them to do.
They are displaying their true loyalties.
Eight incumbent Republican Senators and two-hundred-forty incumbent Republican House members may face a hostile primary because they forgot who they work for.
The Congress is doing exactly what we need them to do.
They are displaying their true loyalties.
Eight incumbent Republican Senators and two-hundred-forty incumbent Republican House members may face a hostile primary because they forgot who they work for.
I like what ann coulter said, its time for a third party . its time for a third party. when you have idiots like ryan and mcconnell leading your party , your party is basically a joke
Ann Coulter suggests it’s time for a third party
"Republicans: I think that brand is dead," she also said. "Democratic party: Basically their brand is 'black lives matter.' It might be a good time for a third party. People forget this - but until Ross Perot started saying crazy stuff, he was ahead in the polls.
I have stated that several times on this forum. There is a disconnect between the Republican leadership and a large segment of the voters. It is like the party has two personalities.
The question is: where will the Big Money go? Big Dark Money is what really sustains the Republican party. If the new party can't raise the funds for it's own propaganda war it would be a long hard difficult start. It would need a Daddy Warbucks or two (or three) of it's own.
Who would support the new party financially? ... The Mercers? ... the Koch's? ... Sheldon Adelson?
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