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Oh, and chielgirl, many of hte parents in my homeschool groups are actually former teachers. Trust me when I tell you that a teaching degree does NOT prepare you for parenthood or homeschooling at all. Totally different dynamic when you love your "students" more than life itself and are accountable to them (unlike liking your students reasonably well and being held accountable to a boss)...
Oh, and chielgirl, many of hte parents in my homeschool groups are actually former teachers. Trust me when I tell you that a teaching degree does NOT prepare you for parenthood or homeschooling at all. Totally different dynamic when you love your "students" more than life itself and are accountable to them (unlike liking your students reasonably well and being held accountable to a boss)...
Maybe in your group, but not in many groups.
Kind of scary when you love your students more than life itself... how do you objectively train them for life? Helicoptering is not necessarily a good thing.
Oh, I have met homeschooled kids and I hire many kids right out of school; sometimes they are very different and don't play well with others. Then you have to fire them and their parents come by or call because how can you fire little bratleigh?
I don't live in a bubble, neither should kids. Exposure to the greatest amount of stimuli is better than a closed cell.
Yes, and I'm sure that you NEVER have to fire kids who went through the public school, right? *eyeroll*
Actually, lots of teachers decide to homeschool their own kids, not just people in my little bubble.
A school classroom is literally a closed cell. Kids ask for permission to go to the bathoom, stand in line to walk out the door, answer to ONE adult all day long. Maybe they go on two or three field trips per year. Then they go home and complete however many hours of busywork each night. I don't know why you would think that schooled kids receive more stimuli than homeschooled kids. Actually, I do know why: you think that homeschooled kids literally stay home and sit at the kitchen table with mom all day. Educate yourself on what homeschooling really is if you're interested.... because to anyone who knows anything about homeschooling, you sound really ignorant.
Educate yourself on what homeschooling really is if you're interested.... because to anyone who knows anything about homeschooling, you sound really ignorant.
I am non-denom, and if I could afford to stay at home, I would without a doubt be homeschooling my children. I agree; there are definitely cases in which parents "homeschool" their kids by indoctrination to their religion or whatever cause - but there are also many very responsible and fully capable parents homeschooling their kids who have myriad reasons to, and should have every right to. This is not just groups of zealots keeping their kids from learning about reality - you're not seeing the bigger picture if that is all it is being reduced to.
In a way, I am homeschooling my children, in addition to the cruddy public school education they are and will be getting because the schools just don't do enough. It is my duty as a responsible parent to ensure my children's minds are not numbed to reality and don't end up deluded by institutionalism and conformity with a false sense of entitlement. Further, the lessons and instruction my son receives in school oftentimes falls short, and I have had to re-teach him in most if not all subjects. Public school in CA these days is like a training camp for living in a box, cradle to grave, becoming a follower and not a leader.
My experiences with p.s. teachers runs the gamut - the exceeded-retirement-age dinosaur who refused to leave (in her 70s), the Prozac popping, passive-agressive basket case who burst into tears during a parent conference, the unqualified to teach even basket-weaving, all the way up to the superstars (of which there have only been two, in my son's 10 years of CA public education). If I were to rely on the public schools exclusively to teach my kids, they would not be able to fend for themselves in the real world; and even more importantly, they would not be the compassionate, considerate, and emotionally balanced people they are.
I think the point of this topic is that we keep asking for bigger and bigger government, and the more liberal a person claims to be, the more they want to infringe upon other's rights. I should know, I live in CA. Do we really want "the powers that be" to have full control of every aspect of our lives, including education? Socialism/Communism was already tried in other countries, and for the most part were abysmal failures. Is this not the U.S.A. anymore?
=Tricky D;3136487]What happens behind the closed doors of the average family is often unknown ( see child abuse).
What are you even suggesting here?
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It would only be logical for child abusers to home school their children; reducing contact with the outside world only works in favour of the child abuser.
What happens behind the closed doors of the average family is often unknown ( see child abuse).
It would only be logical for child abusers to home school their children; reducing contact with the outside world only works in favour of the child abuser.
Yeah and what goes on behind closed doors in public schools is unknown too. Just look at all of the cases lately of teachers molesting students.
I am non-denom, and if I could afford to stay at home, I would without a doubt be homeschooling my children. I agree; there are definitely cases in which parents "homeschool" their kids by indoctrination to their religion or whatever cause - but there are also many very responsible and fully capable parents homeschooling their kids who have myriad reasons to, and should have every right to. This is not just groups of zealots keeping their kids from learning about reality - you're not seeing the bigger picture if that is all it is being reduced to.
In a way, I am homeschooling my children, in addition to the cruddy public school education they are and will be getting because the schools just don't do enough. It is my duty as a responsible parent to ensure my children's minds are not numbed to reality and don't end up deluded by institutionalism and conformity with a false sense of entitlement. Further, the lessons and instruction my son receives in school oftentimes falls short, and I have had to re-teach him in most if not all subjects. Public school in CA these days is like a training camp for living in a box, cradle to grave, becoming a follower and not a leader.
My experiences with p.s. teachers runs the gamut - the exceeded-retirement-age dinosaur who refused to leave (in her 70s), the Prozac popping, passive-agressive basket case who burst into tears during a parent conference, the unqualified to teach even basket-weaving, all the way up to the superstars (of which there have only been two, in my son's 10 years of CA public education). If I were to rely on the public schools exclusively to teach my kids, they would not be able to fend for themselves in the real world; and even more importantly, they would not be the compassionate, considerate, and emotionally balanced people they are.
I think the point of this topic is that we keep asking for bigger and bigger government, and the more liberal a person claims to be, the more they want to infringe upon other's rights. I should know, I live in CA. Do we really want "the powers that be" to have full control of every aspect of our lives, including education? Socialism/Communism was already tried in other countries, and for the most part were abysmal failures. Is this not the U.S.A. anymore?
I agree with you 100%!
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see child abuse).
