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Old 08-14-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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Today I was cleaning my daughters room and came across a couple of her workbooks and papers from school.
This was proof that they do not teach American history in schools but they will sure teach other stuff.
Don't get me wrong, how the curriculum was set up, it's interesting to see how they include grammar in with history but this really irritated me.
One book is "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages", the second one was "American Revolution". The one they used the most was the "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages". This is from a public school.
I don't mind if my kids learn about other countries and people who contributed to what our world is today. The part that infuriated me the most is the lack of our schools actually teaching American History. After seeing this it made more sense as to why there seems to be a lack of knowledge when it comes to American history and how it's repeating itself.
The only thing I remotely like about the curriculum is that it has them learn something while correcting the grammar, using correct punctuation etc. But when my child can tell me more about Muhammad and nothing about our country's history something is wrong.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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Today I was cleaning my daughters room and came across a couple of her workbooks and papers from school.
This was proof that they do not teach American history in schools but they will sure teach other stuff.
Don't get me wrong, how the curriculum was set up, it's interesting to see how they include grammar in with history but this really irritated me.
One book is "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages", the second one was "American Revolution". The one they used the most was the "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages". This is from a public school.
I don't mind if my kids learn about other countries and people who contributed to what our world is today. The part that infuriated me the most is the lack of our schools actually teaching American History. After seeing this it made more sense as to why there seems to be a lack of knowledge when it comes to American history and how it's repeating itself.
The only thing I remotely like about the curriculum is that it has them learn something while correcting the grammar, using correct punctuation etc. But when my child can tell me more about Muhammad and nothing about our country's history something is wrong.
Do yourself and your daughter a favor and homeschool.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Today I was cleaning my daughters room and came across a couple of her workbooks and papers from school.
This was proof that they do not teach American history in schools but they will sure teach other stuff.
Don't get me wrong, how the curriculum was set up, it's interesting to see how they include grammar in with history but this really irritated me.
One book is "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages", the second one was "American Revolution". The one they used the most was the "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages". This is from a public school.
I don't mind if my kids learn about other countries and people who contributed to what our world is today. The part that infuriated me the most is the lack of our schools actually teaching American History. After seeing this it made more sense as to why there seems to be a lack of knowledge when it comes to American history and how it's repeating itself.
The only thing I remotely like about the curriculum is that it has them learn something while correcting the grammar, using correct punctuation etc. But when my child can tell me more about Muhammad and nothing about our country's history something is wrong.
I dont know what State you are in, but here in alabama each grade learns something different.


Kindergarten - second grade = Family construct
third grade = US Geography
Fourth grade = Alabama State History
5th and 6th = US history generalized
7th = World Geography/Civics
8th = World history up until 1500
9th = World History after 1500
10th = US history Pensacola/ St.Augustine and original settlements up to Industrial revolution
11th = Industrial revolution to to Present
12th = US government/Economics

My guess is that your daughters are in the 8th grade if your state is close to mine. Also, you could take History electives in high school, so your daughter could be taking Middle eastern/African history.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:27 PM
 
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Do yourself and your daughter a favor and homeschool.
I may have to supplement with American History. 90% of the time if the tv it's on some kind of history or science show. They prefer it more than cartoons.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:30 PM
 
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I dont know what State you are in, but here in alabama each grade learns something different.


Kindergarten - second grade = Family construct
third grade = US Geography
Fourth grade = Alabama State History
5th and 6th = US history generalized
7th = World Geography/Civics
8th = World history up until 1500
9th = World History after 1500
10th = US history St.Augustine and original settlements up to Industrial revolution
11th = Industrial revolution to to Present
12th = US government/Economics

My guess is that your daughters are in the 8th grade if your state is close to mine. Also, you could take History electives in high school, so your daughter could be taking Middle eastern/African history.
She's was the 4th grade (going into the 5th). They learn about the state history throughout the entire time they are in schools here.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Browse used book stores and find American History books from the late 1800s to early 1900s.
I had one that was printed in 1898. It is about 10 X 12, and 4 inches thick. All of my kids enjoyed taking the thing to school and asking the teacher "If this book is THIS big, and our text book is 8 1/2 X 11, and only 1 1/2 inches thick, what did they leave out?"
None of the teachers had a really good answer...
Come to think of it, that book just might be in a box out in the garage. I may dig it out and allow my grandkids to read it.
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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With all the talk about the controversy of the Civil War statues it has me thinking about my experiences in school with American History. It was years ago but from Middle school through college I can't remember much emphasis on US History but do remember it was viewed by many of my peers as dull and boring. I can only imagine how kids feel about it today when everything is so fast.

To kids the history of rap, marvel comics and Kardashians is a lot more exciting then learning about some old dudes doing stuff.

I would want my kid learning about US history over world history. You could always teach your child yourself.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:19 PM
 
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Today I was cleaning my daughters room and came across a couple of her workbooks and papers from school.
This was proof that they do not teach American history in schools but they will sure teach other stuff.
Don't get me wrong, how the curriculum was set up, it's interesting to see how they include grammar in with history but this really irritated me.
One book is "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages", the second one was "American Revolution". The one they used the most was the "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages". This is from a public school.
I don't mind if my kids learn about other countries and people who contributed to what our world is today. The part that infuriated me the most is the lack of our schools actually teaching American History. After seeing this it made more sense as to why there seems to be a lack of knowledge when it comes to American history and how it's repeating itself.
The only thing I remotely like about the curriculum is that it has them learn something while correcting the grammar, using correct punctuation etc. But when my child can tell me more about Muhammad and nothing about our country's history something is wrong.
Tells me you are not an active participant in what your daughter learns. Tells me you're not fine tuned to her academics. You're not paying attention if you're just finding out she's learning Islamic History (which I doubt anyway).

Do you go to her progress meetings? Ever glance upon her work (when she does have homework)? Do you attend parent teacher conferences? All of this, and more and you would not be surprised. Did you ask her what she's learned thus far?
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:06 AM
 
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Browse used book stores and find American History books from the late 1800s to early 1900s.
I had one that was printed in 1898. It is about 10 X 12, and 4 inches thick. All of my kids enjoyed taking the thing to school and asking the teacher "If this book is THIS big, and our text book is 8 1/2 X 11, and only 1 1/2 inches thick, what did they leave out?"
None of the teachers had a really good answer...
Come to think of it, that book just might be in a box out in the garage. I may dig it out and allow my grandkids to read it.
That's pretty cool.


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Tells me you are not an active participant in what your daughter learns. Tells me you're not fine tuned to her academics. You're not paying attention if you're just finding out she's learning Islamic History (which I doubt anyway).

Do you go to her progress meetings? Ever glance upon her work (when she does have homework)? Do you attend parent teacher conferences? All of this, and more and you would not be surprised. Did you ask her what she's learned thus far?
Actually quite the opposite. I'm very active and on first name basis with a few of her teachers and people who are around her at school. She has excelled at school this year because she is receiving the extra help that I pushed for her to get. This school actually listened to me as a parent because she had struggled in the past and her previous school did nothing. It's a little eye opening when your child can tell you all about Muhammad and nothing about American History.
Since you doubt....here ya go.


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Old 08-15-2017, 12:19 AM
 
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Today I was cleaning my daughters room and came across a couple of her workbooks and papers from school.
This was proof that they do not teach American history in schools but they will sure teach other stuff.
Don't get me wrong, how the curriculum was set up, it's interesting to see how they include grammar in with history but this really irritated me.
One book is "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages", the second one was "American Revolution". The one they used the most was the "Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages". This is from a public school.
I don't mind if my kids learn about other countries and people who contributed to what our world is today. The part that infuriated me the most is the lack of our schools actually teaching American History. After seeing this it made more sense as to why there seems to be a lack of knowledge when it comes to American history and how it's repeating itself.
The only thing I remotely like about the curriculum is that it has them learn something while correcting the grammar, using correct punctuation etc. But when my child can tell me more about Muhammad and nothing about our country's history something is wrong.
The public schools my kids have been in always always always -- even in high school send out syllabus at the beginning of the year outlining the course work, text to be used, etc. and have the parents sign it. That's two different states, three different school boards with that policy.

You say you are involved but you are just finding these books now -- that's confusing to me.

I see it is Unit 4. That would mean that particular unit was part of the curriculum for that year. There were other units -- like the American Revolution - which was Unit 7. There might have been more units.

I know the three school districts I live in the kids all had American history and other history and cultures taught at every grade level.

I would request a copy of the curriculum for Grade 5 (These books are grade 4 I think) for all the subjects. You should know what child will be learning (Again I thought most school boards did that).

I think if you talk to the teachers or administrators you will find out that your daughter may not have brought home the text book with the US history information but that US history is a part of her curriculm every year.
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