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Confederates committed treason against the US government.
Mexico didn't.
(fwiw, I'm a 100% bona fide certified DAC, i.e. Daughter of the Confederacy on both maternal and paternal sides, with nary a trace of Yankee blood.)
In what way did they commit treason against the US government? According to the constitutions of many states, and the understanding at the time of the founding of the United States, the individual states joined the US voluntarily, and had the right leave the same way. They exercised that right...and when they did the US government continued to illegally occupy property on what at that point was a sovereign nation. If there was "treason"-it was by Lincoln...against the Constitution of the United States-when he declared war on an independent nation.
How does the government commit acts aimed at harming Americans? Also a Mexican citizen who harms an American citizen is just that a Mexican citizen that harmed an American. Also when did mexicans start chanting kill white Americans as I haven't heard any of that at all.
Is the Confederacy an enemy of the United States, or a threat to US citizens, TODAY? If so, yes, I can absolutely see every reason to denounce the flag and what it represents. That would be no different than the Soviet flag when Americans we dying to protect people from Communism. The difference...today Mexico, both the government and some of the population, do still, intentionally, commit acts aimed at harming the United States.
Many of those who choose to fly the flag of the Confederacy are a threat to the United States. It has become intertwined with White Supremacists and KKK ideologies.
Is the Confederacy an enemy of the United States, or a threat to US citizens, TODAY? If so, yes, I can absolutely see every reason to denounce the flag and what it represents. That would be no different than the Soviet flag when Americans we dying to protect people from Communism. The difference...today Mexico, both the government and some of the population, do still, intentionally, commit acts aimed at harming the United States.
Nazi Germany also doesn't exist. Should the state capital of Kansas have a flag for the Third Reich? Should California have a red flag brandishing the hammer and sickle replace every American flag?
My opinion: a Mexican American can have the Mexican flag waving on their lawn. I'd like to see them wave an American flag along side it. Both are part of their identity. I see no contradiction there. The Confederate flag, which is usually the Confederate Battle Flag (as in used during war against the United States) represents a state the rebelled against the US. The American Civil War was the bloodiest conflict in US history. All because a few states wanted to keep their slaves.
There's a reason the Israeli flag isn't often seen with a swastika waving next to it. I feel that same logic may apply here.
We DO have Mexicans marching in the streets advocating the murder of white Americans, attacking Americans of other races, committing violent acts and flagrantly violating our laws. So...where are the liberals denouncing them? Demanding all signs of their heritage be destroyed? Condemning them as violent, ignorant racists?
Where?
You live in Idaho - - stick with grizzlies, bunkers, and things that people from Idaho know about. I'll tell you if any of that stuff actually starts happening in a place that actually has Mexicans.
In what way did they commit treason against the US government?
While the Confederacy on the whole didn't commit treason, 4 states did as they declared War on the U.S and pledged allegiance to the Confederacy prior to seceding from the U.S.
In what way did they commit treason against the US government? According to the constitutions of many states, and the understanding at the time of the founding of the United States, the individual states joined the US voluntarily, and had the right leave the same way. They exercised that right...and when they did the US government continued to illegally occupy property on what at that point was a sovereign nation. If there was "treason"-it was by Lincoln...against the Constitution of the United States-when he declared war on an independent nation.
Revisionist history?
The Southern states who joined the Confederacy committed treason against the US by seceding in the first place.
They used no legal recourse through Congress but just declared Secession.
Lincoln should have let the Southern slave states leave the Union because their economic racist plan would have eventually failed in the end.
Name one nation today that is prosperous on "slave" labor?
Most of the Southern states are still economic basket cases save perhaps for Florida (Which isn't really all that "Southern" to begin with considering Yankees developed most of the state)
There are obvious parallels. The United States fought a war with Mexico...the same as with the CSA. Mexico has a strong history of slavery, same as the CSA. Citizens flying that flag do so embracing a country that was an enemy of the United States...that supported slavery.
I want to know...are liberals as quick to decry and denounce those that fly that hate-filled flag and celebrate their heritage as readily as they do those with the Rebel flag?
Why would I as a liberal denounce the Mexican Flag? For what?
Nazi Germany also doesn't exist. Should the state capital of Kansas have a flag for the Third Reich? Should California have a red flag brandishing the hammer and sickle replace every American flag?
My opinion: a Mexican American can have the Mexican flag waving on their lawn. I'd like to see them wave an American flag along side it. Both are part of their identity. I see no contradiction there. The Confederate flag, which is usually the Confederate Battle Flag (as in used during war against the United States) represents a state the rebelled against the US. The American Civil War was the bloodiest conflict in US history. All because a few states wanted to keep their slaves.
There's a reason the Israeli flag isn't often seen with a swastika waving next to it. I feel that same logic may apply here.
So by the same logic, it's perfectly fine for a person of southern heritage have a confederate battle flag, so long as they have a US flag flying next to it? And they won't be condemned for it?
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