Building an Enemies List? (Congress, legal, healthcare, suspect)
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Is the trump administration building an Enemies list, does this not make you uncomfortable?
"On 17 July, the department of justice served a website-hosting company, DreamHost, with a search warrant for every piece of information it possessed that was related to a website that was used to coordinate protests during Donald Trump’s inauguration. The warrant covers the people who own and operate the site, but also seeks to get the IP addresses of 1.3 million people who visited it, as well as the date and time of their visit and information about what browser or operating system they used."
***** about the source if you want, but answer the question if you can, would you be ok if a Dem administration wanted this sort of information?
Well considering how the Obama admin. was OK with increasing the data that is collected from every American under the guise of the Patriot Act and keeping us safer I'm not concerned that Trump is supposedly collecting similar info.
They can demand but one would think they would require a court order to release such information.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the new age of whistle blowers and leakers.
08-15-2017, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd
Well considering how the Obama admin. was OK with increasing the data that is collected from every American under the guise of the Patriot Act and keeping us safer I'm not concerned that Trump is supposedly collecting similar info.
Was Obama targeting his political enemies specifically?
Try to stay on topic. The Trump administration is trying to build up a list of Americans who aren't on board with letting Trump be Kim Jong Un, Jr. This isn't the first time they've done it either.
Pretty soon (new per Trump admin) our browsing data - which gives our IP address and every site we visit, including each sub-page, will be public information for anyone to see. Anyone will be able to tell each forum link in C-D that you visited, how many times, date/time of the visit. Your entire browsing history will be available for anyone to see.
Now the Trump admin wants to know the IP address of every visitor to the web site which planned "the women's march" of 1/21/2017. Wonder what they plan to do with this "enemy list". This is very much like a dictatorship.
Wonder which privacy individuals will lose next. Will they come after YOUR data next and put YOU on a list?
Well considering how the Obama admin. was OK with increasing the data that is collected from every American under the guise of the Patriot Act and keeping us safer I'm not concerned that Trump is supposedly collecting similar info.
They can demand but one would think they would require a court order to release such information.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the new age of whistle blowers and leakers.
Wow, that did not take long. So you are alright with this? Is it because you believe that if it is good for the goose it is good for the gander, ie: two wrongs equal a right?
Yes, should be very interesting to see the court battle, and no I do not see the NSA spying as the same as what trump wants, one was for National Security, the other is only related to trump and possible actions against his own enemies. Not Good
Was Obama targeting his political enemies specifically?
Try to stay on topic. The Trump administration is trying to build up a list of Americans who aren't on board with letting Trump be Kim Jong Un, Jr. This isn't the first time they've done it either.
Yep, sharyl Attkisson, james rosen, etc, etc.......
"The Obama administration has an enemies list, and John Dodson was on it. The special agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) infuriated his superiors by alerting Congress and everyone else about the government’s gunrunning scheme called Fast and Furious. He had to pay for his act of good citizenship. The Justice Department’s inspector general concluded Monday that a high-ranking political appointee destroyed Mr. Dodson’s credibility and ruined a career."
then we were asked to report anyone who wasn't on board with oabamacare to report that person to whitehouse.gov
Wow, that did not take long. So you are alright with this? Is it because you believe that if it is good for the goose it is good for the gander, ie: two wrongs equal a right?
Yes, should be very interesting to see the court battle, and no I do not see the NSA spying as the same as what trump wants, one was for National Security, the other is only related to trump and possible actions against his own enemies. Not Good
I'm just saying from what we have seen coming from both sides I am no longer shocked to the lengths our Government will go to keep tabs on us. The Dems more so then the Reps are masters at manipulating and the information that is collected for one "innocent/ security" reason could very well be used for something else down the road.
Look at what happened to Flynn. He was picked up in a wire tap where he was not the suspect and the information that was gathered on him was supposed to be destroyed but instead it was used to destroy him and discredit Trump.
The Dems have always gone about collecting information carefully so as not to arouse suspicion but Trump is a ham fisted non politician that lacks subtlety and with the media looking for blood they are in a biting mood.
I'm sure Hillary had her lists of enemies and that is not one to be on if you are hoping to have a long life.
I'm just saying from what we have seen coming from both sides I am no longer shocked to the lengths our Government will go to keep tabs on us. The Dems more so then the Reps are masters at manipulating and the information that is collected for one "innocent/ security" reason could very well be used for something else down the road.
Look at what happened to Flynn. He was picked up in a wire tap where he was not the suspect and the information that was gathered on him was supposed to be destroyed but instead it was used to destroy him and discredit Trump.
The Dems have always gone about collecting information carefully so as not to arouse suspicion but Trump is a ham fisted non politician that lacks subtlety and with the media looking for blood they are in a biting mood.
I'm sure Hillary had her lists of enemies and that is not one to be on if you are hoping to have a long life.
On that we agree. Maybe it is time this gets more coverage and Americans Demand that this sort of BS Stops Immediately, no Political Party or Politician or even the Government has the legal authority to do this sort of data gathering because there simply is no just legal cause to do so.
Was Obama targeting his political enemies specifically?
Try to stay on topic. The Trump administration is trying to build up a list of Americans who aren't on board with letting Trump be Kim Jong Un, Jr. This isn't the first time they've done it either.
YES!!!! Many were targeted for IRS audits.
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