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Old 08-15-2017, 08:26 PM
 
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On this I completely agree. Both antifa and the white supremacists need to leave that at home.

However, tinytrump, the reason that they don't, at this time, is because the police don't do their job. They stand back and watch it happen despite knowing full well, months in advance, that the event was going to take place.

Look what happened when the police at Berkeley finally did do their job, once. The antifa scumbags were on one side of the street, and the white nationalists and other idiots were on the other side of the street. All they did was scream and yell at each other and look completely stupid. But there was no violence. THAT is how it should be done.
Agreed - that is how it should be done.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Karl Poppers paradox of tolerance

Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them

Maybe YOU should go live in 1940s Germany
Again, the antifa scum sucking pigs are not going to erase our Constitution no matter how badly the little commie pukes whine. It's never going to happen. You have no moral high ground. Edit: My sincere apologies to all pigs everywhere that I compared you to the scum antifa.

So, while we're here...tell me how many fake accounts you're going to make today to accuse me of being a Nazi? Why don't you tell everyone who you were before you made these fake accounts today. As you said, "Identify yourself" "Be honest". Go on, be honest and come clean about your fake accounts.

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Old 08-15-2017, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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On this I completely agree. Both antifa and the white supremacists need to leave that at home.

However, tinytrump, the reason that they don't, at this time, is because the police don't do their job. They stand back and watch it happen despite knowing full well, months in advance, that the event was going to take place.

Look what happened when the police at Berkeley finally did do their job, once. The antifa scumbags were on one side of the street, and the white nationalists and other idiots were on the other side of the street. All they did was scream and yell at each other and look completely stupid. But there was no violence. THAT is how it should be done.
I agree leo presence was slack , Cities know maybe pd not prepared properly ?but these jokers came for hell raising and the did... the leader said points go to them because, none died on their side .
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:31 PM
 
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Leftists conveniently forget that it was America that sent millions of tons of food to starving African nations that their black leaders denied their people so that those who would not pay them would starve to death. Racism, hate, lies, and distorting the truth are the hallmarks of Democrats.
You just make up stories in your head. Can't discuss with you.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Cannes
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You cant allow a neo nazi to freely shout whatever they want and to march with symbols with such hatefully charged signification. You just cant.

If you do you are a nazi yourself.
Problem with that if i understand it correctly, is that it goes agains the first amendment
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:35 PM
 
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You cant allow a neo nazi to freely shout whatever they want and to march with symbols with such hatefully charged signification. You just cant.

If you do you are a nazi yourself.
I think we can allow it - or we should. We should not allow them to act on their thoughts, however. That is an important distinction.

You're welcome to your hateful speech/thoughts - but you are NOT welcome to institute those hateful thoughts in any way on society.

"Tolerance of everything but intolerance" is in relation to this - actions on that intolerance.

That said, those people exercising their freedom of hateful speech shouldn't expect freedom from consequences. Their thoughts will be reviled by society through rejection and counter speech.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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How can you have freedom of speech and hate speech at the same time?
How can you not? You've seen how these neo-nazis and kkk hate everything, and now you've seen how the anti-neo-nazis hate them. It is their right to argue and hate, but not to start hurting each other.

When arguments devolve into violence, all civility is lost.

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You just make up stories in your head. Can't discuss with you.
Actually, Petch is right and you just refuse to consider. Can't discuss with you.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I agree leo presence was slack , Cities know maybe pd not prepared properly ?but these jokers came for hell raising and the did... the leader said points go to them because, none died on their side .
Those people are idiots. They don't represent the right. They don't represent Trump. Just like antifa useless scum do not represent all liberals.

The police should be prepared. They are told how many are expected (estimate) and unless they are living under a rock in a cave, they should know that antifa is going to get bussed in to start their ish. If the police do nothing, guess what happens.
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:44 PM
 
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i think we can allow it - or we should. We should not allow them to act on their thoughts, however. That is an important distinction.

You're welcome to your hateful speech/thoughts - but you are not welcome to institute those hateful thoughts in any way on society.

"tolerance of everything but intolerance" is in relation to this - actions on that intolerance.

That said, those people exercising their freedom of hateful speech shouldn't expect freedom from consequences. Their thoughts will be reviled by society through rejection and counter speech.
This!
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Old 08-15-2017, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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No Democrat calls for unity of all, just unity of their hate groups. White supremacists make up .1% of the Republican Party while anti-white racists make up 80% of the Democrat Party.
Seriously now, why would you make stuff like that up?
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