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Old 08-16-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Trump doing what Trump does best, deflect from the reality of the crap that he is causing around us.

Race riots and a death? I will talk about building roads so hopefully they forget this past weekend.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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From this link:


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1AV1ZI


I found this sentence instructive:


"The American Petroleum Institute said in a statement that the order reflects recommendations the oil industry lobby group submitted to the Commerce Department in March. The National Association of Home Builders also praised the Trump administration's move, saying the flood rules had raised the cost of housing."


My, President Trump does sign a lot of executive orders. Here is what he said about them in the past:


“Obama goes around signing executive orders. He can't even get along with the Democrats. He goes around signing all these executive orders. It's a basic disaster. You can't do it.”


"We have a president that can't get anything done so he just keeps signing executive orders all over the place.”


"I hate what Obama does with gun legislation. He doesn't talk to anybody. He goes out and signs executive orders. In theory you're supposed to the old fashioned way, get everybody into a room and get something people agree on.”


"I don't think [Obama] even tries anymore. I think he just signs executive actions.”


“Nobody wants to listen to [Obama], including the Democrats, so he just goes around signing executive orders."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a825030a37d5




President Trump, during his first 200 days, has signed 42 executive orders (I think 43 with the above).


I will note that Mr. Trump has played more rounds of golf (50) than he has signed EO's, so there is that.
But Trump supporters will spin it by saying Trump gets more presidential work done on the golf course then anywhere else.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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There is nothing concise on the EO. He has signed a crap load of EO's most of them very general and not implementable. He signed an EO to "fix healthcare" nothing has been done. I am not a trump supporter so I am content with that not much other than deregulation, which I guess it is what is, my feeling is once you start deregulating you are going to find out why the regulations were there in the first place and if they dont then we didn't need it so I am willing to go down that road.
If I was a trump supporter i would be pissed every time he signs this EO's full of platitudes that get nothing done or start any process definitively.
There is no reason for a Trump supporter to be upset with him for doing what is within his power to do. Moving the country into a more prosperous direction with EO is the new normal. Obama did it ( to the detriment of prosperity ) and now Trump is doing it for prosperity.
Congress can't produce legislation and get it to the Presidents desk when its a Dem or GOP in the Oval Office.
Until the voters decide to elect a congress that can function it will continue.
At some point the log jam will be broken by the voters. We will move towards socialism and the destruction it guarantees or the other direction, consistent with individual freedom to have the government the servant and not the master of citizens.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:20 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Clickbait thread title. Trump hasn't signed anything. You said he did in your title, then backslid and talked about all the great things that would happen IF he signed an infrastructure EO. Trump would MAGA IF he were a decent human being and president. But he isn't. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. So these ridiculous arguments are what Trumpeters are reduced to.
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Why lie about it or is it just ignorance ? He signed the EO. That's a fact.

Trump signs order to speed infrastructure construction | WBEN 930am
Nonsense. Trump SAID he signed an EO. And he is more dishonest than a used car salesman. Not only that, every time he signs an executive order, he makes a big deal out of it and uses it as a grand opportunity for a photo op. And there is no photo op or press conference demonstrating this executive order. So I'm very skeptical of his claim. And even if he did, executive orders do not successful legislation make. It's more likely he is using this executive order idea as a way of deflecting from the intense criticism he is receiving from his defense of the KKK/Neo Nazis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.09b58afd5f73
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I don't get the infrastructure project, maybe it's because I'm from a third world country but the U.S population growth is likely to reduce under Trump. So if we build new infrastructure who are we building it for. I personally think the only way we can improve U.S infrastructure is through denser city development and extensive commuter rail.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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Nonsense. Trump SAID he signed an EO. And he is more dishonest than a used car salesman. Not only that, every time he signs an executive order, he makes a big deal out of it and uses it as a grand opportunity for a photo op. And there is no photo op or press conference demonstrating this executive order. So I'm very skeptical of his claim. And even if he did, executive orders do not successful legislation make. It's more likely he is using this executive order idea as a way of deflecting from the intense criticism he is receiving from his defense of the KKK/Neo Nazis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.09b58afd5f73
The emotional display of Trump derangement syndrome is a poor example of a position for making judgements and doesn't alter the facts.


Trump signs order to speed infrastructure construction | WBEN 930am

Under Trump's order, agencies must complete environmental reviews of projects within two years on average. Trump signed another executive order on streamlining environmental and public reviews of infrastructure projects his first week in office.

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Old 08-16-2017, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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There is no reason for a Trump supporter to be upset with him for doing what is within his power to do. Moving the country into a more prosperous direction with EO is the new normal. Obama did it ( to the detriment of prosperity ) and now Trump is doing it for prosperity.
Congress can't produce legislation and get it to the Presidents desk when its a Dem or GOP in the Oval Office.
Until the voters decide to elect a congress that can function it will continue.
At some point the log jam will be broken by the voters. We will move towards socialism and the destruction it guarantees or the other direction, consistent with individual freedom to have the government the servant and not the master of citizens.
He needs to promote his agenda and bring the parties together to get a bill passed for infrastructure, these XO's are meaningless. Presidents need to work with congress to get things done. One of the reasons people voted for him was supposedly because he was this crafty negotiator that could get things done, Art of the Deal. He has been an utter failure in this regard.
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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He needs to promote his agenda and bring the parties together to get a bill passed for infrastructure, these XO's are meaningless. Presidents need to work with congress to get things done. One of the reasons people voted for him was supposedly because he was this crafty negotiator that could get things done, Art of the Deal. He has been an utter failure in this regard.
Put the blame where it belongs. Congress. Both sides are useless cry babies who don't want anything done for the citizens. Just their own special interests.
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Put the blame where it belongs. Congress. Both sides are useless cry babies who don't want anything done for the citizens. Just their own special interests.
While I agree Obama was able to get some things accomplished when he had an advantage in congress. I didn't vote for Trump but at least I thought that he would be able to make government more efficient and cut out waste. What happened to his analysis of the different government agencies, Medicaid reform, DOD efficiency.


His XO's have been very minor and he has been unable to reach agreement with his own party well beyond healthcare. Infrastructure and tax reform should have been an easy one but here we are 7 months in and nothing. He wasted all his collateral on the ACA and while I blame the GOP for having nothing I blame him and his staff for being tremendously naïve and incompetent.


If nothing get's done by the end of September he can kiss his legacy goodbye, instead of using August to his advantage he just shot himself in the foot yet again.
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Old 08-16-2017, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Executive Orders: How Do They Work? - Law Blog

EO's sound impressive but they are not the end. Just a beginning. But hey, if you want to golf and visit your properties and conduct business using your position in violation of the emoluments clause, you have to make it look like you're doing something. Even if you are rolling back regulations in the financial arena and dismantling the EPA. Yeah good work. MAGA.
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