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Old 08-16-2017, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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So?

Trump said the violence was bad and so did Obama. now imagine if Trump said the leftist protesters need to show "mutual respect" to the Nazis.

 
Old 08-16-2017, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I provided multiple links of various information and views. Some written at different times before a solution was final. You don't want the full story or any story that doesn't match your view, it appears.

In the end the right call was made not by Obama but it took the Senate to make it right.
Actually the 'call' to make was not even the jurisdiction of the White House at all.

In fact- the DoD made the response that they could not call it an act of terrorism within the current framework of the Military Justice System since the shooter was a US Army officer. To modify the charge without legal precedence risked their ability to get a guilt verdict on the criminal.

After the fact- Congress had to make the call in order to set legal framework to award the wounded and killed appropriately, within the correct authority- The National Defense Authorization Act of 2015.

Again- your cites are nothing short of a partial paint of the entire picture
 
Old 08-16-2017, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter; he said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers,” Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters
In his initial response, Obama, like Trump, did not single out black nationalists or the movement associated with the heinous act. Instead, Obama said that he was “horrified” by the “vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement.”



“There is no possible justification for these kinds of attacks or any violence against law enforcement,” said Obama. “Anyone involved in the senseless murders will be held fully accountable. Justice will be done.”
Obama also used the moment as an opportunity to push for more gun control. “Today is a wrenching reminder of the sacrifices they make for us,” Obama said of police officers. “We also know when people are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately, it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic.”

When Obama was given more time to address the Dallas massacre at the funeral of the five officers, he not only did not condemn black nationalists or radical Black Lives Matter activists, he used the platform as a way to double down on his gun control agenda, reiterate his claim that systemic racism plagues the criminal justice system, and push for more public investment in minority communities and schools. The media largely fawned over the “Lincolnesque” speech
It's been a while and I forget-was it before or after this multiple murder that Obama invited leaders of a violent, racist hate group to meet with him in the Oval office? I do believe it was after when Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton used black supremacists as props for her campaign.
 
Old 08-16-2017, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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And yet, despite your attempts at deflection, not once did Obama call out BLM or other black supremacist groups for their racism, bigotry or violent acts. He never came close to condemning them the way Trump did with white supremacists, specifically the KKK. And, not surprisingly, the left and the media made no demands that he do so.
 
Old 08-17-2017, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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It's been a while and I forget-was it before or after this multiple murder that Obama invited leaders of a violent, racist hate group to meet with him in the Oval office? I do believe it was after when Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton used black supremacists as props for her campaign.
What the left does not understand is, that if they do succeed in bringing down Trump, that the same rules will apply to their next POTUS. Nothing will be off the table; it will be one attack after another. Hillary never could have stood up to this kind of pressure; she had far too many skeletons in her closet. She had more connections to Russia and hate groups; there was even one that claimed she used the 'N' word. That is not even mentioning her finances and emails.

This game the left is playing is a dangerous game. No winner will ever be a winner. It appears that many do not want us to be a Country anymore. If Russia was involved in our politics; would that be their goal? Why would they push for a supportive President when they could topple the whole government? Perhaps we need a grand jury looking into the reasons why the media wants this outcome - do they have foreign backing?

What Obama did in his eight years would never have happened in today's hateful climate. If he was treated the same, as he raced for his fiddle as Ferguson burned, would that happen today? Even his lack of action in Chicago could have opened up a can of worms; his own people where dying and he did nothing - was that racist? Was Louis E. Farrakhan in the WH under Obama? It appeared that Obama never distanced himself from a Black supremacists or drug users - so where was the media?
 
Old 08-17-2017, 03:28 AM
 
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Liberals and the media have a blatant double standard and that makes them racists.

 
Old 08-17-2017, 07:17 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Plans for Obama Museum should be cancelled for his intolerance to non minorities and spawning racially tinged violence leading to injured and killed police officers , and for his friendship and support of terrorist bombers Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers. ..

The Daley Center, and Daley College and Daley Park, for Richard Daley's shoot to kill proclamations
Malcolm.X.college, for his anti white admonitions,and his advocacy to violently overthrow government and attack police officers. ..
 
Old 08-17-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And yet, despite your attempts at deflection, not once did Obama call out BLM or other black supremacist groups for their racism, bigotry or violent acts. He never came close to condemning them the way Trump did with white supremacists, specifically the KKK. And, not surprisingly, the left and the media made no demands that he do so.
BLM is not a supremacist group, do you even know what they stand for, what violent acts. You keep attempting to equate BLM with these White Supremacists groups like Unite the Right and the Aryan Brotherhood, it isn't working. This was Trumps initial take on the events in Charlottesville.
 
Old 08-17-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thumbs down Lies!

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Liberals across the country went crazy after Trump called out violence “on many sides” instead of just singling out the group and white supremacy groups.

The irony in this, of course, is that they did NOT demand that Obama do the same when a BLM supporter targeted and killed 5 white police officers last summer in Dallas.

If you remember, black nationalist Micah Xavier Johnson used his sniper rifle to shoot and killed five Dallas police officers in July of 2016. President Obama’s responses to the sequence of events was widely praised by the press.



Responding to the outrage over Sterling and Castile, President Obama said their deaths were “not isolated incidents” but were “symptomatic” of a criminal justice system plagued by “racial disparities.” That evening, during a Black Lives Matter rally, Johnson opened fire on Dallas police officers, shooting a dozen officers, five of whom died from their wounds. Before the police were forced to shoot him dead, he told them that he was deliberately targeting “white people, especially white officers” and that the Black Lives Matter movement had inspired his actions.

That post is a big pack of lies.

Obama to police: Dallas shooting was a 'hate crime'

President Obama calls out Black Lives Matter activists for ‘yelling’

Obama on Dallas: 'Vicious, calculated, despicable attack on law enforcement'


Obama calls for mutual respect from Black Lives Matter and police

Obama Says Anti-Cop Rhetoric Can Hurt Black Lives Matter

B-b-but OBAMA!

So amusing.

Carry on.

 
Old 08-17-2017, 08:06 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
And yet, despite your attempts at deflection, not once did Obama call out BLM or other black supremacist groups for their racism, bigotry or violent acts. He never came close to condemning them the way Trump did with white supremacists, specifically the KKK. And, not surprisingly, the left and the media made no demands that he do so.
Amazing that, even when faced with facts, you still flat out deny the truth and then make up more lies.

Unhinged. Deranged. Delusional. Those words don't do it justice.
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