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Old 08-17-2017, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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Clinton was a huge womanizer and lots of liberal women like Joy Behar from The View defended him.



Byrd was like 90 years old and grew up in a different era he denounced all of that when he was still very young.


Yes, Clinton was too but we didn't know it until he got a hummer while in office with Trump everyone KNEW it before he became president. Hell, I'm willing to bet every president has had someone on the side.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...both-side.html




Granted I'm more anti-Trump then Hillary but I would never vote for her. I just posted what the link said and yes I added my own two cents to it. I believing if we keep voting for the lesser evil I going to keep us in the mess we are now. And it's going to get worse. Hillary was bad for this country and no not because she was a women but she was more of the same thing we've had in office of late.


Trump, I don't even know where to start with him the list is long. Those who voted for him were suckers and Trump played them well. I hated GWB JR but I rather have his dumb arse back in office then who we have now. This man has TRULY divided the U.S this forum is a good example of that.
Welp, bravo then. At least you hate Trump, but also are able to think for yourself. That's cool. Respect.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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We are middle class here in California and WE voted for him. For us it was about jobs especially for the young people.
You really voted for Trump for "jobs"? Seriously? The guy who said he was anti-free trade and wanted to kill NAFTA?

The two biggest job-creating Presidencies in modern American history were 1. Bill Clinton and 2. Barack Obama. Hillary essentially vowed to stay the course re. Obama's economic policies. Trump vowed to radically upend economic policy and pursue a protectionist policy, which all economists, left and right, agree would reduce U.S. jobs.

I am often befuddled by my fellow Americans. Voting for a racial demagogue ranting about Mexicans and foreigners and bragging about grabbing women, all in the name of "jobs".
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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You really voted for Trump for "jobs"? Seriously? The guy who said he was anti-free trade and wanted to kill NAFTA?

The two biggest job-creating Presidencies in modern American history were 1. Bill Clinton and 2. Barack Obama. Hillary essentially vowed to stay the course re. Obama's economic policies. Trump vowed to radically upend economic policy and pursue a protectionist policy, which all economists, left and right, agree would reduce U.S. jobs.

I am often befuddled by my fellow Americans. Voting for a racial demagogue ranting about Mexicans and foreigners and bragging about grabbing women, all in the name of "jobs".
Simplistic answers for simplistic minds.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...both-side.html




Granted I'm more anti-Trump then Hillary but I would never vote for her. I just posted what the link said and yes I added my own two cents to it. I believing if we keep voting for the lesser evil I going to keep us in the mess we are now. And it's going to get worse. Hillary was bad for this country and no not because she was a women but she was more of the same thing we've had in office of late.


Trump, I don't even know where to start with him the list is long. Those who voted for him were suckers and Trump played them well. I hated GWB JR but I rather have his dumb arse back in office then who we have now. This man has TRULY divided the U.S this forum is a good example of that.
So what was the option this past election? That was our choice Clinton or Trump.

Unfortunately Trump's problems and the establishment's hatred of him will probably prevent an outsider from being able to win. While certainly not the only reason, I do feel a part of the establishment disdain towards Trump was part trying to keep their job.
So get ready for the career lying politicians because they are all we will get going forward. What sane businessman will put himself through the media hit squad and campaign circus?
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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You really voted for Trump for "jobs"? Seriously? The guy who said he was anti-free trade and wanted to kill NAFTA?

The two biggest job-creating Presidencies in modern American history were 1. Bill Clinton and 2. Barack Obama. Hillary essentially vowed to stay the course re. Obama's economic policies. Trump vowed to radically upend economic policy and pursue a protectionist policy, which all economists, left and right, agree would reduce U.S. jobs.

I am often befuddled by my fellow Americans. Voting for a racial demagogue ranting about Mexicans and foreigners and bragging about grabbing women, all in the name of "jobs".
Ehhhh I voted for Obama twice.

He put us in $10 trillion in debt, while his "job creation" consisted more of low wage retail jobs, like a 30 year old mom flipping fries at McDonalds.

This is exactly why Hillary lost.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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So what was the option this past election? That was our choice Clinton or Trump.

Unfortunately Trump's problems and the establishment's hatred of him will probably prevent an outsider from being able to win. While certainly not the only reason, I do feel a part of the establishment disdain towards Trump was part trying to keep their job.
So get ready for the career lying politicians because they are all we will get going forward. What sane businessman will put himself through the media hit squad and campaign circus?


There were other choices. Sanders who I wanted to win. But there is always a choice other then the two parties but sadly it would seem that the system is set up so one of them wins.


And lead the sheep off the cliff.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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I found Trump's multiple responses to Charlottesville to be spot on. He denounced the KKK, and Neo Nazi types but also acknowledged the paid BLM/Antifa types were wrong to attack, and use violence also. I see nothing wrong with Trump's statements. The media, as usual is spinning it to make Trump look bad, and the gullible are believing them.
Yes according to the media, somehow that is an example of failed leadership. They are even going so far as to say this was a pivotal moment in Trump's presidency and he blew it. Pivotable? Really? We are talking about a local rally that went wrong, not a national crisis.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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The more combative and vicious the left gets, and that includes establishment RINOs, the more the American people will solidify their support for Trump.


The message that none of the morons in both parties and the press are not getting is that the American people are TIRED of politics as usual. Trump is an imperfect politician and human being, but he is not a creature of Washington D.C. That alone is enough to make him preferable to his critics.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes according to the media, somehow that is an example of failed leadership. They are even going so far as to say this was a pivotal moment in Trump's presidency and he blew it. Pivotable? Really? We are talking about a local rally that went wrong, not a national crisis.

Fate tossed a meat pitch to tRump that he should have hit over the fence.

Instead, he struck out.

Bigly

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