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Old 08-17-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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Look at history. There was never a perfectly smooth-functioning societal utopia... and there NEVER will be. Period.

Especially in this day and (information) age. No populace is going to come together and agree in perfect harmony. There will always be a division. There will ALWAYS be resistance.

We look at division as something bad, but unless it completely tears the fabric of society, or kills people, division is a necessary evil within any people group.

The closest thing you can get to complete agreement and uniformity would be a forced totalitarian regime like North Korea. But then people suffer, fear, and die.

The question we should be asking is: "How can we function together under the context of our differences," rather than, "How can I win the others to my side" or worse, "How can I defeat the other side."

And that's it. That's the cycle that will always be repeated until the world stops ticking. We'll either blow ourselves up (and destruction is always easier than construction) or wise up. This is life.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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You're crazy.
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Old 08-17-2017, 08:54 AM
 
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You're crazy.
Care to expand?

Are there points you agree/disagree with, or do you dismiss the post altogether? Why?
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:03 AM
 
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... and very obviously, this forum is another example.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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What's funny is that the truth is this. Even if the deranged Leftists got their utopia it wouldn't last. The HAVE to be aggrieved about something and would soon start to eat each other and it would quickly become a dystopia.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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Look at history. There was never a perfectly smooth-functioning societal utopia... and there NEVER will be. Period.

Especially in this day and (information) age. No populace is going to come together and agree in perfect harmony. There will always be a division. There will ALWAYS be resistance.

We look at division as something bad, but unless it completely tears the fabric of society, or kills people, division is a necessary evil within any people group.

The closest thing you can get to complete agreement and uniformity would be a forced totalitarian regime like North Korea. But then people suffer, fear, and die.

The question we should be asking is: "How can we function together under the context of our differences," rather than, "How can I win the others to my side" or worse, "How can I defeat the other side."

And that's it. That's the cycle that will always be repeated until the world stops ticking. We'll either blow ourselves up (and destruction is always easier than construction) or wise up. This is life.


Here's a question for you. Why is it when the world reaches a point where we might destroy ourselves we stop what were doing? We tend to reach a precipice and all of a sudden realize that we're about to destroy each other. At that we tend to come together and help each other.


Why?
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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Here's a question for you. Why is it when the world reaches a point where we might destroy ourselves we stop what were doing? We tend to reach a precipice and all of a sudden realize that we're about to destroy each other. At that we tend to come together and help each other.


Why?
Example?

In any case, we naturally fear death/destruction. It's part of the cycle. Sometimes we inevitably come to our senses and realize we wanted nothing more than to survive in the first place and briefly come together (think of post twin towers), but then as the cycle moves on, it returns to fracture.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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Correct,. World peace will never be possible and socialism and globalism will never be successfully accomplished anywhere..

The premise that people should advocate for these things is caused by media brainwash and propaganda which depend on base emotions, not logic or reason. It is a racket of all rackets.

Globalism and socialism are only successful for the already wealthy and powerful. Capitalism gives people freedom to make choices rather than be subjects of chronic political dysfunction.

Socialism and globalism are retarded concepts that have no place in the American economy.

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Old 08-17-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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Humans can NOT operate in a Utopia. Our nature does not allow it. If we are given everything, even it if is "perfect" we do not value it. Things must be earned, or we feel useless. So struggle, strife, unhappiness, happiness, etc are here to stay.


The quest by the Liberal/Progressive for a Utopia is extremely damaging to society. It has created a ruling class of elite, and furthered control, and domination by the few. Tyranny is on the rise in America, and Europe and has been since WWII. The useful idiots on the left believe they are being altruistic, when in reality they are creating another slave state.

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Old 08-17-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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Example?


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Any of these wars could of been the end of us all.


My question still stands if you please. One other thing we do tend to help each out when there is a major disaster. Why?
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