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Deleting history is what stupid people do. Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it.
Then lets take the markers off of every confederate monument and put on "traitor, slavery defender, loser". Feels like southerners haven't learned their history - - that should help them.
Removing statues aren't necessarily hiding history. Don't think anyone will forget Robert E. Lee or any similar figure, as their lives were well-documented. Removing them, though, is an indication that such racist people should not be revered or celebrated, which is the reason statues and monuments are erected in the first place.
For me, I get satisfaction out of "confederate sympathizers" getting pissed off and looking powerless. But when all is said and done, the real oppression is happening in our schools, in our justice system and in our communities. A statue is just a representation of a belief system, but the biggest representation of white supremacy currently resides in the White House. So personally, it does my heart good, but it doesn't do any good for Black Americans on an aggregate level.
Right now in Tampa, FL, they are trying to raise private money to tear down a statue. Hillsborough County said they need to come up with $140,000. So far, the group spearheading that campaign has raised $12,000. I can think of at least ten places where that money could be of better service directly to youth in Tampa, FL.
Go ahead and remove them. It will be one less thing for blacks to complain about. The American Civil War was only a 4 year span of time. This country has over 200 years of "other" history than can be memorialized.
Those pesky complaining negroes. First they wanted to be freed from slavery, then they wanted equal rights, then they wanted segragation to end. Geez, what's next..
Does removing those statues change anything? Are we hiding from history or is it time for them to be removed?
Maybe the most appropriate response to your question is from Robert E. Lee himself. Lee opposed monuments - specifically Confederate war monuments.
He wrote: “I think it wiser not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.”
Lee believed countries that erased visible signs of civil war enabled a quick recovery. His thinking was that by keeping these symbols alive, it would keep the divisions alive.
In Germany, the symbols of the Nazis have all been removed. In their place there are thousands of monuments remembering the victims of Nazism, rebuilt Synagogues or plaques where they once stood, even bricks with names in the pavements in front of the houses from where the Jews were taken.
Maybe the most appropriate response is from Robert E. Lee himself. Lee opposed monuments - specifically Confederate war monuments.
He wrote: “I think it wiser not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.”
Lee believed countries that erased visible signs of civil war enabled a quick recovery. His thinking was that by keeping these symbols alive, it would keep the divisions alive.
In Germany, the symbols of the Nazis have all been removed. In their place there are thousands of monuments remembering the victims of Nazism, rebuilt Synagogues or plaques where they once stood, even bricks with names in the pavements in front of the houses from where the Jews were taken.
This is how a nation heals.
This statement still did not change the past though did it?
It also has not changed division in anything.
So, pretty words but basically useless and not true.
Go ahead and remove them. It will be one less thing for blacks to complain about. The American Civil War was only a 4 year span of time. This country has over 200 years of "other" history than can be memorialized.
the importance of the staues and honoring the civil war is that after we fought brother against brother, the country came back together.
the president demanded no vengence be taken against the south. the statues represent the healing that took place and honor each sides instead of wiping out any trace of the disagreement in an act of disrespect to the side that lost the war.
The contrast could not be more dramtic than when compared to middle east and other countries where hate has lived since before Christ, where mercy and forgiveness are unknown and replaced by vengence and hate.
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