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Old 08-19-2017, 01:22 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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You are an individual, not a population. That said, the argument made by the OP is grossly oversimplified to the point of nonsense.

There is consensus in the scientific community that human do have bias based on physical traits that is even detectable in infants and this is thought to translate to a survival adaptation that can be extrapolated to the societal level, but it does not mean humans are inherently racist or that overcoming bias based on physical traits is not itself a survival trait.
That's probably true about the inherent bias. We do tend to stick together in tribes, stay with our own kind. But this trait is exploited by people in places of power, to divide us. We could co-exist just fine if others wouldn't exploit us for their own means.

 
Old 08-19-2017, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Yes.
Assimilation always happens in a successful democracy. For as long as the founding principles are solid, and the nation's citizens agree to follow the laws of the land their representatives have created, a democracy will hold together.

A democracy does not need a single language, a single culture, or even a unified society to continue and to thrive. As long as the common will exists to hold to the law of the land, all those differences will find ways to overcome them or to tolerate them.

But once the belief we are all in this together, forever, is lost, then any democracy will be lost. And once gone, it is very hard to recapture.
Your comments are very true.

But we Americans are becoming more divided each day, and some don't want to uphold the law of the land, specially in the areas of immigration.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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Here is the same list by Ethnicity.
80% Norwegian
74% Anglo-Celtic Australians
63% Swiss
79% German
88% Danish
74% Singaporean Chinese
77% Dutch
87% Irish
92% Icelandic
32% Canadian (this is debatable, but most of those that identify as Canadian are from French regions followed by ethnically English speaking regions so I would say French at roughly 35% followed by English at 30%)
14% German (this is also debatable as some people identify as just American which would likely fall more into Irish, Scots-Irish and English ancestry although the gap is massive, African
Americans will likely become the number one ethnic group in America at 13% of the population and a six million person gap)
will finish later...
If talking American Black people: even THAT can go off in some crazy directions cause of more and more Black people are having kids with white people and, many times those mixed kids DON'T claim just Black, especially if those kids have real light skin. Too, word is when going with quadroons, 1 quarter Black, the kids usually claim "white". Period.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Humans, IMHO, have a survival-instinct that makes them racist.......they most closely trust, group and identify with those who are most racially-similar to themselves.

When there is a totally unnatural and forced grouping of different races and cultures, it is going to eventually lead to much fighting, power-grabs/power-envy, social chaos and generalized disharmony.
So how do you explain in racially homogenous Ireland, and specifically, Ulster - where they've been fighting amongst themselves for decades?
 
Old 08-19-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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Multiculturalism invariably leads to Latin Americanization. How can anyone in their right mind call that anything but dismal failure?
 
Old 08-19-2017, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Multiculturalism invariably leads to Latin Americanization. How can anyone in their right mind call that anything but dismal failure?
The Mayans, incas, and Aztecs we're doing just fine before the Spaniards and portugese TOOK them by force. You can't slam Latin America without slamming Colonialism .....
 
Old 08-19-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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Multiculturalism invariably leads to Latin Americanization. How can anyone in their right mind call that anything but dismal failure?
Argentina is the country that social scientists most frequently look to in any attempt to compare the economic outcomes of the United States to Latin America. It has a similar climate, natural resources, etc.

Demographics are relevant to assess educational level which is correlated with economic performance. The (current) demographics of Argentina are: 52% European, 27% Amerindian ancestry, 9% African and 9% others.

Its rather spectacular economic failure since independence is attributed not to demographics but to the legacy of the colonizer. Great Britain colonized America and settlers brought with them a tradition of democratic representation. Argentina, by contrast, was colonized by Spain whose settlers had no such background. Great Britain was, in many ways, unique among the countries of the European continent in earlier centuries in promoting the rights of the individual.

No surprise then that Argentina was saddled with decade after decade of various military juntas and the like that crippled the country it could have become.

You know, "lefties" don't reject many ideas promulgated by the far right because of brain washing by the MSM. Many, many of us actually read and think and know history. And I'm NOT a social scientist or historian.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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The Mayans, incas, and Aztecs we're doing just fine before the Spaniards and portugese TOOK them by force. You can't slam Latin America without slamming Colonialism .....
And you can't slam Colonialism without slamming globalization and mass immigration. Multigenerational Americans are the "Incas and the Aztec" of America facing the onslaught of mass immigration and globalization and the democrats and globalist are the "Indian" collaborators for the colonizers.

You are wrong in your characterization of the Mayan, Aztecs and Incas, but I'll let it stand as you are making my point.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 03:34 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I don't think so. America was succeeding best when it had the least diversity despite problems with having some diversity black and white. And for some reason in the mid 1960's maximizing diversity was decided as the answer.
Probably because blacks didn't like being denied voting rights, careers, respect...or being made to use separate schools, bathrooms, buses...or treat whites as superior overlords?

Ever thought of that? Let me guess, none of that registers with you as a problem because you're white.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 03:35 PM
 
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Argentina is the country that social scientists most frequently look to in any attempt to compare the economic outcomes of the United States to Latin America. It has a similar climate, natural resources, etc.

Demographics are relevant to assess educational level which is correlated with economic performance. The (current) demographics of Argentina are: 52% European, 27% Amerindian ancestry, 9% African and 9% others.

Its rather spectacular economic failure since independence is attributed not to demographics but to the legacy of the colonizer. Great Britain colonized America and settlers brought with them a tradition of democratic representation. Argentina, by contrast, was colonized by Spain whose settlers had no such background. Great Britain was, in many ways, unique among the countries of the European continent in earlier centuries in promoting the rights of the individual.

No surprise then that Argentina was saddled with decade after decade of various military juntas and the like that crippled the country it could have become.

You know, "lefties" don't reject many ideas promulgated by the far right because of brain washing by the MSM. Many, many of us actually read and think and know history. And I'm NOT a social scientist or historian.
Even if that is true, the left is changing the demographics of America largely for the purpose of tearing down all British American tradition.
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