Since conservatives seem to be against progressive policies..... (school, state, separation)
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I'm against minimum wage. Nobody is "forced to work". Free means of production, contractual law, and freedom to associate allows employer and employee to negotiate terms.
Eliminate the State. Completely free market in health care will create an organic supply and demand economy.
I'm pro-choice.
You have the right to do whatever you want under two conditions...
1. You uphold the non-aggression principle
2. You respect private property rights
I don't believe in the State.
Taxation is theft...PERIOD. If confiscation of 100% of the fruits of your labor at gunpoint is slavery then at what percentage does it cease to be slavery and become something else?
The free market can provide goods and services such as roads, security, etc. Organic supply and demand.
Way too much faith and belief in the market system? Have you ever heard of greed and the ugly side of human behavior? Or do you think they would be eliminated by your beloved market? Heck, under a free market, why should a kid go to school if his parents decide that he should work? They gave birth to him and they own him, like a property. Where does your private ownership end and public goood begin, or is there no such thing as public good in your free market utopia? Ridiculous.
DOMA was anti-gay, and California Prop 8 (which was heavily backed by the LDS church) was also anti-gay.
Repub's have been closing down abortion clinics and passing fetal homicide laws in states like Mississippi and Texas, and North Dakota passed that law a couple years ago with the intention of appealing it to the SCOTUS and getting Roe v Wade overturned. Seems anti-choice to me.
Republicans calls for flat taxes and raising the eligibility age for SS and Medicare definitely are against the lower 2/3 of earners.
Again, your move......
sigh..... You missed every time. Conservative = less government. All you did was say republicans. That's been my point, the progressivism on both sides of the aisle are failures.
DOMA/California Prop 8 =more government Conservatives want less government. Government needs to stay out of the marriage business and quit telling people who they can or cant marry. They need to quit forcing the private sector to accept or not accept marriage.
Correction you're pro murder not pro choice. Your rights end where mine start. You don't understand that? Anyone who has been following the abortion issue knows its based on when life begins, that's the point. Conception? 1 Month? 3 Months?
Raising the SS eligibility age is a no brainer. People are living longer and working longer. People should have the option to opt out of SS. That= even less government.
Flat taxes aren't really a big thing with conservatives. Let me tell you why, we want less government. Get it yet? The less taxes collected the less there is to fund big government.
Medicare - When did medical costs start getting higher even though technology in every other field lowers cost? That's what you don't ask. Something government did that made health insurance the better option vs a higher salary? Medicare and Medicaid have anything to do with raising costs? Big Pharm getting protection from government? The problem is the cost. And the reason the cost is high is because of government.
Against minimum wage? How do you feel about people who would then be forced to work for $1/hr?
I'm against any given individual being "forced to work," period. I am in favor of any given individual deciding for him/herself what an acceptable wage might be. If that is a $1 per hour, fine. If it's $1200 an hour, fine.
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Against nationalized healthcare? How do you feel about either having to take a second mortgage on your house or declare bankruptcy if you have a heart attack or get cancer, and that's WITH insurance?
That's not a responsibility of the government. Neither is it a responsibility of fellow citizens, unless they so chose to make it their responsibility.
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Against abortion? How would you like your daughter being forced to carry and raise a kid she never wanted?
She should have thought of that before hitting the sack. If she were raped or forcibly violated, then by all means, abort the bad seed. If her life is in danger, of course abort to save her.
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Against LGBT rights? Would that make your own kid an enemy if they happened to not be straight?
LGBT are not my enemy. I simply do not give a damn. That is until I'm told that I HAVE to think or that I must act a certain way because of them.
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Against separation of church and state? How do you feel about Iran or Mauritania?
I'm for freedom of Religion. I'm against an active national enforced religion.
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Against taxation? Would you like to see a toll booth go on your street or for the police to give you a bill if they ever have to come help you?
Typical hyperbole. You know as well as I do that the taxation required to pay for only road construction, police, emergency, etc is a minute fraction of one percent of the taxes we pay. If you want to tax me for only the true cost of those programs, feel free. I'm all for it. Besides, most of your road building comes from gas tax.
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These are all serious questions, though I'm sure I won't get serious answers.......
And I'm sure that your definition of a "non-serious answer" is anything that is in disagreement with your opinions.
You feel the government should provide for the populace via coercive collectivism (a form of slavery) and that the government should dictate what the populace does, thinks, and believes via ruling class edicts. I do not. We are both serious. And we both have very different views of the ideal social system. The difference is, I do not wish to FORCE my ideal on anyone. You, on the other hand, do. Therein lies the problem in all of its seriousness.
Other people have adequately covered most of the items on the list, so I will just address "Separation of Church and State".
It is not in the Constitution.
Freedom OF religion is in the Constitution (Read the first sentence of the First Amendment).
Freedom FROM religion is also not in the Constitution.
The First Amendment begins: "Congress shall make no law...". As far as I know, congress has never made any such law establishing a National Religion, nor has any President signed any EO establishing any such religion.
Separation of church and state only means the government cannot establish a mandatory state religion.
It does not mean the government cannot recognize certain aspects and traditions of a particular religion including public displays of faith.
Also a news flash. The court has repeatedly rule that police or the government has no duty to protect any individual.
You are on your own anyway.
Firearms are the "great equalizer." A 90 pound woman can defender herself against a 250 pound gorilla/thug. But the left, although they profess otherwise, HATE equality. Their philosophy requires a despondent, helpless, victim that needs to be "rescued" by the "authorities" (AKA ruling class) from the boogie men of the world (AKA anyone who thinks differently than they do).
I was repeatedly labelled as Nazi, even though Nazi means National SOCIALIST Workers party.
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Against minimum wage? How do you feel about people who would then be forced to work for $1/hr?
Regardless the pay, nobody should be forced to work. Period. On the other hand, nobody should be forced to pay for any service. The moronic minimum wage law is to force people to pay for products and services at a government set rate.
The minimum wage law is shooting yourself in the foot while claiming it's a brilliant idea.
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Against nationalized healthcare? How do you feel about either having to take a second mortgage on your house or declare bankruptcy if you have a heart attack or get cancer, and that's WITH insurance?
Reduce the regulations on health care, and we won't need to take a second mortgage - we shouldn't take the first mortgage to begin with.
In the real life, the entire world is living off US. Without medicines created in US, what do other socialized health care have?
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Against abortion? How would you like your daughter being forced to carry and raise a kid she never wanted?
I don't care as long as I don't have to pay for it - abortion or the baby.
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Against LGBT rights? Would that make your own kid an enemy if they happened to not be straight?
I didn't care until I was told that I must provide special treatment for LGBT.
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Against separation of church and state? How do you feel about Iran or Mauritania?
I am for separation of church and state. I do feel that churches should pay taxes.
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Against taxation? Would you like to see a toll booth go on your street or for the police to give you a bill if they ever have to come help you?
I am only against corporate tax, income tax, estate tax and property tax. Cut all taxes and leave the sales tax. Nobody should be paying taxes for the fruit of their labor or their lawfully obtained properties.
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These are all serious questions, though I'm sure I won't get serious answers.......
Would I get any serious answer back?
If you already wrote off the conservatives, why did you bother to ask questions?
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I was repeatedly labelled as Nazi, even though Nazi means National SOCIALIST Workers party.
Regardless the pay, nobody should be forced to work. Period. On the other hand, nobody should be forced to pay for any service. The moronic minimum wage law is to force people to pay for products and services at a government set rate.
The minimum wage law is shooting yourself in the foot while claiming it's a brilliant idea.
Reduce the regulations on health care, and we won't need to take a second mortgage - we shouldn't take the first mortgage to begin with.
In the real life, the entire world is living off US. Without medicines created in US, what do other socialized health care have?
I don't care as long as I don't have to pay for it - abortion or the baby.
I didn't care until I was told that I must provide special treatment for LGBT.
I am for separation of church and state. I do feel that churches should pay taxes.
I am only against corporate tax, income tax, estate tax and property tax. Cut all taxes and leave the sales tax. Nobody should be paying taxes for the fruit of their labor or their lawfully obtained properties.
Would I get any serious answer back?
If you already wrote off the conservatives, why did you bother to ask questions?
Per your last point, I ask, because I think some "conservatives" only think of themselves and don't give a crap about the big picture
sigh..... You missed every time. Conservative = less government. All you did was say republicans. That's been my point, the progressivism on both sides of the aisle are failures.
DOMA/California Prop 8 =more government Conservatives want less government. Government needs to stay out of the marriage business and quit telling people who they can or cant marry. They need to quit forcing the private sector to accept or not accept marriage.
Correction you're pro murder not pro choice. Your rights end where mine start. You don't understand that? Anyone who has been following the abortion issue knows its based on when life begins, that's the point. Conception? 1 Month? 3 Months?
Raising the SS eligibility age is a no brainer. People are living longer and working longer. People should have the option to opt out of SS. That= even less government.
Flat taxes aren't really a big thing with conservatives. Let me tell you why, we want less government. Get it yet? The less taxes collected the less there is to fund big government.
Medicare - When did medical costs start getting higher even though technology in every other field lowers cost? That's what you don't ask. Something government did that made health insurance the better option vs a higher salary? Medicare and Medicaid have anything to do with raising costs? Big Pharm getting protection from government? The problem is the cost. And the reason the cost is high is because of government.
I would opt out of it tomorrow. No qualms about it either. Give me every penny I've paid into it.
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Per your last point, I ask, because I think some "conservatives" only think of themselves and don't give a crap about the big picture
Live on a commune and share everything being equally dumb and equally broke
No thanks.
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