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View Poll Results: Can you be a good person and a member of the kkk/nazis?
Yes 13 8.23%
No 145 91.77%
Voters: 158. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-17-2017, 04:39 PM
 
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Since Trump said there are good people on both sides of the Charlottesville protest/attack I am posing the question is it possible to be a good person while being a member of the nazis or kkk? For me the answer is you may be redeemable but you can not be a good person and a nazi or klansman.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:26 PM
 
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I took what he said to mean there were good people there who who protesting the statue removal. You can be a good person and hold that opinion.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:28 PM
 
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I took what he said to mean there were good people there who who protesting the statue removal. You can be a good person and hold that opinion.
Right but that is not the question in the poll.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Right but that is not the question in the poll.
The poll doesn't jive with the question though.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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If you're actually a Nazi or Klansman...I'd say no. If the Nazis and KKK claim to be on your side, that doesn't make you bad.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:32 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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If you are a member of the KKK or a Nazi you cannot be a good person. They are practically the definition of evil.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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No. Good people don't hate other people just because of their race, religion, skin color, religion, or culture.

However, to address the first post, people can advocate for their own race, religion, etc. and still be good people. (Just so long as that they don't hate others as stated in my first sentence above.)
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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If you're actually a Nazi or Klansman...I'd say no. If the Nazis and KKK claim to be on your side, that doesn't make you bad.
Ding.

We have a winner.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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Are they sinners or just misguided or "prophets" shouting in the wilderness? Maybe we should ask a pastor or priest. I think a rabbi or Islam wathca-ma-call-it would have a bias.
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Old 08-17-2017, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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I'll have to say no on this one. Just like radical black lives members, radical KKK types just had bad programming pushed into their heads throughout their lives from parents and the people around them. Rather than taking ownership for themselves and trying to improve themselves they seek to blame others for their problems. It's not their fault.. that's how they were programmed based on life experience. People give way too much credit to others for their behavior when it's largely genetics and environment that determine it. Regardless, they are a detriment to society as a whole. I'm not saying everyone has to be a carbon copy of each other and all fit into a single mold, but hate is counterproductive to progress as a species, regardless of who it is that is hating. Hate is not something exclusive to white males. Many cultures all over the world act similarly. It's kind of a natural biological trait that takes work to undo. Through hundreds of thousands of years of evolution we are wired to be suspicious of anyone who is different because they could be a possible threat.... the language barrier has always been a big issue... it's what made many of history's wars possible.

Bottom line... people will believe anything if they are told it enough times, and belief becomes habit and habits become deep rooted the more they are practiced and harder to undo with time and emotional investment. It's why that old saying about control the information to control the people rings true. North Korea is a modern example of how a culture can turn into a cult of sorts when information is controlled through the muzzle of a gun or with a lifetime of hard labor if you break the rules.

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