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Old 08-21-2017, 09:14 AM
 
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That is the exact point, right? That's what happened in VA. An armed militia left their home states and went to other people's home state (people the militia did not agree with) and killed someone. That's what they did and people aren't cool with it. They did not show up in Boston because of the counter-protesters. What is the issue with that?

Okay, so explain Berkeley. Milo was invited to speak there.
Explain the inauguration.
Explain the attack on Joshua Witt , stabbed for having the wrong hair cut.
Explain the attack on police in Chicago.
Explain for the calling of violence on any Trump supporter
Antifa Website Calls for Violence Against Trump Supporters | Fox News Insider




Face it, Antifa is far more dangerous to our society at this time then some inbred neckbeard basement dwellers that think the South won.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Antifa is far more dangerous to our society at this time then some inbred neckbeard basement dwellers that think the South won.
This is abundantly clear to anyone who cares to take an unbiased approach to the empirical evidence (and dig beyond the corporate orthodox media).

One thing to keep in mind, though, is that Antifa has been around for much longer in Europe -- decades. They are organized, serious, and unabashedly violent.

Antifa is relatively new to the United States. They are still searching for their "more tangible methods."
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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This is abundantly clear to anyone who cares to take an unbiased approach to the empirical evidence (and dig beyond the corporate orthodox media).

One thing to keep in mind, though, is that Antifa has been around for much longer in Europe -- decades. They are organized, serious, and unabashedly violent.

Antifa is relatively new to the United States. They are still searching for their "more tangible methods."

You are correct. After doing some research a while back I found that Antifa has been prevalent in Europe and Australia, years ago. That is why I stated society rather than just our country.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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It isn't accurate to classify Antifa as "left".

They are not left or right. They are anarchists. If anything, they strongly align with libertarians-- they do not believe in government intervention.

You can, and will, find as many people with left or right wing ideas in Antifa.

Although I'm deeply troubled by the idea of fighting violence with violence.

Right now they're being classified as "left" even by liberal publications simply because they conveniently fill a narrative void we have no idea how to otherwise understand. We have the typical hate groups on the right, but... We don't have anything equivalent on the left. But our two-party system demands equivalence for comprehension, so Antifa is "left".

On the other hand, another description for "fought against Nazis" is "World War 2 veteran", so...
Good comment.

As I'm reading, I see that the Antifa are also opposed to mainstream Democratic liberal ideology with its belief in solutions through "institutions" which they as anarchists decry.

Hence, their sometimes seemingly random violence although most of it is directed against the AltRight and hate groups.

Libertarians, too, are anti-statist but without the violence.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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Is he making a moral equivalency claim between antifa and neo-Nazis ?
There is not moral equivalency. The Neo-Nazis say bad things. Antifa does bad things. Words don't hurt near as much as violent attacks and riots.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:00 AM
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There is not moral equivalency. The Neo-Nazis say bad things. Antifa does bad things. Words don't hurt near as much as violent attacks and riots.
Timothy McVeigh is probably crying in hell now that you forgotten about him.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Good comment.
Not really. Antifa members generally espouse an anarcho-communist worldview. The anarcho-communist flag has flown at most if not all Antifa protest-riots.

http://newamericangovernment.org/wp-...6008314370.jpg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvN5o2aRNs
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:19 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Good comment.

As I'm reading, I see that the Antifa are also opposed to mainstream Democratic liberal ideology with its belief in solutions through "institutions" which they as anarchists decry.

Hence, their sometimes seemingly random violence although most of it is directed against the AltRight and hate groups.

Libertarians, too, are anti-statist but without the violence.
I get the impression that the antifas are only anti-statist when it comes to the current state. If they could be in charge the state would resemble something along the lines of Cuba or Venezuela.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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Is he making a moral equivalency claim between antifa and neo-Nazis ?
what are you talking about? both groups are fascists. that's like like saying 2 Honey Crisp Apples are both Honey Crist Apples.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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I get the impression that the antifas are only anti-statist when it comes to the current state. If they could be in charge the state would resemble something along the lines of Cuba or Venezuela.
LOL. they aren't anti-statists. They are in fact Statists who don't like the current president. and they are mad that the current State isn't stronger. they are evil fascists.
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