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And while often times we agree, in this case I do not agree with you. I am not a person to attend any kind of protest but if I did it would not be in that manner. If you are protesting a controversial subject with the likelihood of a clash then that is not the place for guns, bats, shields, bottles, aerosol cans, etc. You are a knucklehead if you take those kinds items to a protest and you are not there for a peaceful exhibition of your rights. That said, the police should never let groups like this commingle in the first place.
I don't believe in the State so the cops aren't part of my stance.
Respecting the non-aggression principle is paramount. If a man shouts something at you that you do not like or is carrying a gun that person has clearly not violated the NAP.
Interestingly you fail to understand both sides exercised their right to free speech. Why do you feel only one side should have the right to it?
I don't feel one side should have a right to free speech.
The rally was deemed "far-right", "Nazis" by the press and tens of thousands showed up to protest. If the people who wanted to attend the rally showed up to hear the speakers they would have been photographed, doxxed, harassed at their jobs, and who knows what else.
The social media would have labeled attendees "far-right" and attacked them for listening to the what the speakers had to say.
We don't know what would have been said at the rally. They didn't have a chance to say anything.
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I don't believe in the State so the cops aren't part of my stance.
Respecting the non-aggression principle is paramount. If a man shouts something at you that you do not like or is carrying a gun that person has clearly not violated the NAP.
But people cannot respect one another so it is pointless to expect the non-aggression principle to work. It is about safety in my eyes because your way will not work with human beings being the aggressive animals they are. It is the same with the Utopia that liberals think is the answer. None of it works in reality.
"free speech" is the new "states rights" - often used as a code word that means "I can be as hateful as I like with a loudspeaker".
I suspect if we discussed the issue with 100 smart and patriotic Americans, we would get different answers as to where the line is. Free Speech is a student in school telling his teacher that teach is a a-hole. It's him telling a classmate she is a fat pig. It could be full blown propaganda and lies, paid for by corporate media.
We already know that the "free speech" cigarette companies used to promote their products was illegal.
Citizens United has brought a lot of this to the forefront for two reasons...
1. Billionaires want to own lying Media and lying Media relies on "free speech" to lie to that degree....with the end being the destruction of civility and the social fabric.
2. The vast amount of money being raked in by Hate Radio, TV, Books, Movies and other media is not something the Right feels good about compromising. Given a choice between decency and a sane debate and hatemongering, the later sells MUCH better.
The Right in this country - when looked at in any realistic way (which means using history) is WAY off the rails. They would love to bring massive firepower to school, on airliners, to concerts, protests and Starbucks. They do this - like "free speech" because they can.
But if each of us spends our time trying to stretch our rights to the furthest possible limit...we are not approaching our problems in a sane manner. Rosa Parks refused to sit in the back of the bus. She didn't stand up and say "you ass-hole have enslaved my ancestors for generations because of your laziness and YOU should sit in the back - and meanwhile I have 6 guns on me, so you should do so quickly".
But that is the modern right.
"States rights" is a code work for nullification, culling of voter registration lists, etc. "Free Speech" is just the new PR for "Hate Speech in the public square".
It's certainly not attracting much of a crowd in Boston.
I just don't buy that these Nazi's are patriots. When I first heard about Holocaust Deniers, Hitler and Putin lovers and all the various similar movements I had no problem with such writing and ramblings. But now we see the rubber hitting the road. These are not people who are simply studying history and coming to different conclusions...they START with the conclusions (Jews ruin the world) and then make everything else fit it.
We will lose NOTHING by not having 100 "free speech" rallies run by white separatists. They can continue to publish their rewriting of history and try to increase their numbers...without walking down the street with Ar-15's and acting like children.
Telling a man what he can and cannot carry on his person is straight up fascism.
Sorry, no way around it.
It doesn't matter if you want to call it fascism or not. A man doesn't have that right anytime/anyhow he wants. I believe Taiwan may have those rights. Not here.
You're wrong too. Are you people serious? What is wrong with you? The complete willful ignorance, the cognitive dissonances coming from the right is insane.
You think you have the right to strut around like a peacock telling all how you are superior to them based on your ethnicity and gender? Well, let's see how that works out today.
seriously? all of the hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance comes from the left
But people cannot respect one another so it is pointless to expect the non-aggression principle to work. It is about safety in my eyes because your way will not work with human beings being the aggressive animals they are. It is the same with the Utopia that liberals think is the answer. None of it works in reality.
It works for me. I only answer to myself and then extend respect to those that respect the NAP.
If the State or anyone else violates it they are wrong. That's why the State is always wrong: its whole premise is a violation of the NAP.
Have NONE of them read Orwell's (or if so, even comprehended) 1984?
The LEFT is removing statues... renaming buildings, streets, bridges, parks, etc... banning books from school curriculum reading lists, etc. The LEFT is doing EXACTLY what Orwell warned about in 1984...
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984
Only the left is too bereft of intellectual ability and/or too under-educated to understand the ramifications of the Authoritarian Totalitarianism playbook they're enacting item by item.
If Authoritarian Totalitarianism isn't Absolutism, what is? /SMH
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