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Old 08-19-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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The Well to-do and Wealthy Conservative's Agenda: Has always considered the Poor White Conservatives as "a collection of clowns"


Trump Administration is Unaware of What America Needs.

Trump basically supports the EXACT SAME THING that SENT INDUSTRY FROM AMERICA.... "RACE BIAS" - Under Richard Nixon, he opened up China and began the Outsourcing, by sending "Ore Processing and Steel Production" to China, with undertone aims to bust up the "Steel Workers Unions". He knew that Unions were a pathway to Middle Class Life, and After 1964 and 1968, Nixon was determined that Minorities and Women, would not be afforded the opportunity that "white men had of gaining economic uplift via unions jobs'... Not only was the plan to "bust up Unions", but to "ensure that minorities would have less avenues to gain economic uplift and certainly the Nixon Administration did not want to see woman advance.

The Civil Rights Act not only freed black people from the madness of segregation, it also freed the liberal minded whites who never wanted any part of segregation. Before the Civil Rights Act, the Racist has placed laws in place that would severely damage liberal whites if they support racial equality. When Liberal White people were freed from this bondage, they began to mix with Multi-Cultural Society. They were as glad to be free from the constraints of segregation as were minorities of all ethnic and racial make up were glad to be free.

The Conservative Establishment, Resented the Civil Rights Laws and they were determined to fight by any means not only to make it difficult for minorities to find good paying jobs, they were with aim to deny the same to the liberal minded whites... and they considered the poor white conservative as nothing more than "collateral damage". Because the main aim was to deny means and avenues for minorities and women, and to make it difficult for liberal minded whites.

Ronald Reagan followed up with Defunding Higher Education, which was previously used by dominantly white and white conservative society... he went across the board to take funding from All State Universities, after he successfully damaged the California University and Community System as Governor of California.

As a result. The cost of University and Colleges Increased dramatically and continued to rise until it shut out many working class liberal white people and decimated the upward educational mobility of minorities, but in the process, again, the "poor white conservative being damaged as in the process was deemed acceptable casualties by the Right Wing system.

Sadly, the poor white conservative have never figured it out, to know they were considered as nothing more than "expendable" and "disposable", they were never considered to be of high value to the well to do conservative. Actually, the poor white conservative was never welcomed in any area where well to do white conservative resided. They were considered as "poor white trash", "Trailer Trash" and "back woods hicks" and host of other labels. This has always been the system except the poor whites always though their white skin would save them and give them access, when the well to do and wealthy have never seen them as being anything more than .. easily usable like pawns to promote havoc and help hide the hand of the well to do white conservatives and the wealthy conservatives.

They have told these same poor white conservatives time after time, "give us well to do and wealthy a tax credit and we will take care of you",... and each time, they certainly have... they took care to strip down wages, take away benefits, make medical unaffordable, and now take money from public schools, make the cost of State and Community colleges unaffordable and stagnated wages and set up nothing more than a cycle where the poor white conservative has no option buy to live with a cycle of ongoing debt. Still the poor white conservative has a vain hope that their white skin will give them something.

The concept of white privilege was only for the well to do white and the wealthy, the poor whites get "despaired communities, broken down towns, drugs, drink, jail and the inability to sustain a family unit. No one tells the true figures of the massive number of broken homes among the poor white conservative, with a poor white conservative mother working low paying jobs trying to take care of kids, while the poor white conservative man, gets lost in drink and drugs and wrapped in anguish because he can't figure out why his white skin has not opened the door for him to gain economic uplift. He is claiming fear that his place in life is threatened, when he never had the place in life that he thought his white skin gave him, all he had was the access to credit, back breaking labor and means to wrap himself in drugs and drink, trying to fight off the anguish, and afraid to face the fact that the well to do white would never accept or regard him and would not allow him into their circles. he has denied that truth by seeking to blame anything and everything, because such truth will shatter the delusion he has been fed, that his white skin makes him something he is no.

Go look at real statics, and you might find, Poor whites are likely to be incarcerated and shot or to kill each other, far more than the well to do and the wealthy whites. Poor conservative whites are likely to kill his whole family and himself, or beat his wife, because he can't face the anguish as being a white man, he can't provide what the TV Imagery has told him a white man is suppose to have. he lives in fear of his own insecurity and it drives him with a sense of inferiority that is liken to one making fights against anything and everything, including his own shadow. he lives with a envy and resentment, that he cannot rise above various minorities, and then he tries to blame the minorities.
He tries to blame minorities for all his conditions, when fact is... it is NOT minorities that create his condition, nor is it women,... it is the well to do and wealthy, who sees him by many names, and all equal to one who is no more than disposable service class worker. When he can no longer provide a service or labor... he is left to wither like unpicked fruit that falls to the ground and rots.

The Wealthy invest heavily to prevent the poor white conservative from learning the real truths. Bannon spilled the beans, "Bannon dismissed the right-wing fringe as “a collection of clowns.” Trump told them how lowly he thought of them, "when he said he could shoot someone on Times Square and these people would still support him"... which is the same as telling them... a wealthy man can do what he wants to them!!!, the same as he said about women, that celebrity and wealth gives him the right to grab them by the P---Y.
Trump surrounded himself with every "symbol" these poor white conservatives worship, from the backdrop of "excessive numbers of flags", "parking his Jet in their view", "boasting about his wealth" and "bragging about media popularity", and "boasting about himself at every turn.".. and these poor white conservatives fell in line with cult-like-worship.

The Poor White Conservative, never thought it through. If they had, they'd know .. The American Flag is itself powerful, it does not need a stage with 20 flags, it only needs "One"... But when a con man is trying to lead a mass of people whom don't have the awareness to think for themselves and think things through... its easy to use props to lure them in and hook them like a fish caught with a shiny lure and bright colored rubber bait. The poor white conservative, never could see beyond the glitter in their eyes of being dictated to by any figure or group who claims themselves to be "an authoritarian". They were blinded and failed to see Trump was/is a Tax Dodger, who fleeced the nation, and he was/is an extortionist who extorted tax credits from struggling cities by threat to sue people, who were too weak to fight back and siding with the corrupt one who saw greed as an angle to get paid.

He colluded with the Foreign Government whom he has relied on to back his funding, because after he fleeced the American banks, no one would loan him money, so he went to the Illicit monies of Russia and any other Illicit Money System he could find, and sold out this nation with treason to tamper with the election process in America, while still pandering to Russia at every chance, and knowing he was indebted to Russian money, to support his vanity and ego of access to use illicit money to promote his megalomania.

Trump's history is aligned with the East Coast Mobs, and any system where "money washing is the game and process", including embracing the International Money washing system. Putin dangled the carrot in trumps face, as if he might get to build in Russia, when Russia cares nothing about Trump in principle, other than he's a "usable buffoon"... he has a few billion dollars, when the Russian Oligarchs have 100's of billions of dollars and Putin himself has well over 200 billion dollars. Trump is nothing more than a easily usable clown to them. The Russians purposefully released the info about Trump's son, as a message to Trump, that if you don't deliver, we will not only take you down, but your family as well. Trump knows if Russia pulls its backing from the Licensing agreement, the Trump Logo will fall off of building faster than golf ball sized hail, hitting the ground. Since then, no one has heard a word from the loud mouth son, nor from his daughter and her favor selling husband and his visa selling family.
The Criminal Son in Law was forced to tell of the 70+ investments he purposefully lied about and left off his disclosure. (No one forgets 70 different investments).. But since that info came out, the Daughter and Son is conveniently on vacation when Trump makes more gaffs.. Trump likely hopes that he can get impeached, as a escapism from the fact he could not deliver to Russia, with hope that Russia will forgive him and not call in their underwriting, and force the other entities that Russia underwrites that back the licensing of Trump's name on properties.

It's not hard to see this stuff... that is the entanglement that Greed leads to, and when ego and megalomaniac madness consumes a man, he become a victims of his own vices. The good thing is, Trump can't escape the investigation of Mueller, nor those of Congress... Nor can he escape that the Russian don't accept a claim of "bankruptcy" as in wiping out what they are owed, they will get their due, and Trump fears the retribution that will come when he can't deliver to Russian what Russia desired. Russia wanted American Allies to be estranged, and Trump tried. He wanted NATO weakened and Trump Tried, He wanted Sanctions Relieved and Trump Tried. he wanted voter information and Trump tried by sending out requesting data from all 50 states.
Russian also helps feed N. Korea and Trump knows it, and Russia helps N. Korea with his weapons projects and Trump also knows that too. But he cannot stop it.

Trump never had a plan.. he though he could bluff his way through the office of President, as he did in New York and New Jersey, with his aid from Mafia and other intimidation tactics... and Trump thought he could dismantle the Governance system, by not filling position, and shoot from the hip and think it would create policy. What he does not realize... he does not have enough money, power, knowledge or access to bribe the U.S. Departments, Divisions, Congress and the millions of people who collect data and make this nation work. This nations does not submit itself to the dictates of a two city 10 block Real Estate Developer, who has a history of mob mentality and collusive and corrupt habits.


Still today, the poor white conservatives who support racist views have never figure it out, it was the well to do and wealthy conservatives who have never liked them, and has always seen them as less than and never have wanted them to rise up and certainly not to have means to frequent any place that well to do and wealthy white conservatives frequented. Bannon just recently said... these people are though of as "the right-wing fringe as “a collection of clowns".

Bannon and Trump share the same ideals of the "well to do and wealthy conservative"; there is no place in their ideal for what they consider "a collection of clowns" as in members of the poor right wing conservative. they are only "useful tool", to promote the agenda of the well to do white conservative and the wealthy conservatives. So they can pretend they are non racist, while they fuel and feed the collection of clowns to promote street level racism.

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Bannon thinks they can use "street level racism" as a distraction to make a smoke screen while they try to push an agenda that further indentures the working poor in American... The agenda is to try and contain and control, indenture and make challenges for the lives of liberal, minorities and poor white conservatives into a program of "indenture", where they are beholding to, and a mass of people that only serves the wants and needs of the wealthy, as in making the average citizen into nothing more than "Service Class" minions, who are replaceable, expendable and disposable..

 
Old 08-19-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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How does the democrat's and Obama's regulate and tax everything, anti-American and anti-white rhetoric, and their defense of mass immigration and enforced diversity crime and home invasions help poor white Americans? It doesn't and everyone knows it.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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How does the democrat's and Obama's regulate and tax everything, anti-American and anti-white rhetoric, and their defense of mass immigration and enforced diversity crime and home invasions help poor white Americans? It doesn't and everyone knows it.
What "anti-American and anti-white" rhetoric are you talking about, snowflake?

And the second highlighted quote?

You have way more crap than the Christmas turkey.

Now, go to your safe spot, and breath into a paper bag to keep from hyperventilating.

Feel all better now?

If you have a problem with increasing diversity, learn to cope with it, or move to middle of nowhere and live in a shack like Ted Kaccynski, because that cake's been baked for decades. Not sure if you're an old man or young neo-Bundist, but if you live to around 2040 or 2050 even Kansas will be borderline minority-majority.

Not sure that that is either good or bad, but it is reality, and we're well past the time where the tide of demographic change can be significantly altered.

https://www.amazon.com/Diversity-Exp...n+william+frey

https://thinkprogress.org/when-will-...-e1d57bb3f185/

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Old 08-20-2017, 06:33 AM
 
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Default Hate can never produce anything but Ignorance !!!

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How does the democrat's and Obama's regulate and tax everything, anti-American and anti-white rhetoric, and their defense of mass immigration and enforced diversity crime and home invasions help poor white Americans? It doesn't and everyone knows it.
It was already written that this would not be comprehended by some, especially the Hard Right... mostly because they have a pre-set mentality which they block the ability to comprehend what they read. Only utter some madness which is TOTALLY irrelevant to what is WRITTEN.

Do you even understand where the devastation you suffer economically is generated, if you did, you'd understand whats written. As to your "snowflake" comment... God created an amazing thing when he made snowflakes, and he made them to be as unique as they are, in being what they are. So if you meant that as a negative... that is only you reflecting the madness that seem to consume you. It must be tiring to walk around with hate, and being unaware to know what is the basis of your own condition and your own problems, while seeking someone to blame based on race, rather than to go to a mirror and ask yourself, who is that being reflected back at you as your peer into the mirror.

Your fears are greater than your faith... and it blocks you from the ability to comprehend, therefore the inability to "understand" relegates your into cycles of spewing ignorance, from your own self generated fears. because you lead with fear and become incapable to understand what you are reading. In such case, why even waste your time coming to a message board. Except... you are seeking companionship's for your fears among the fearful; nothing more !!!!!

Your talk is as you think the world owes you something for being white. IF you want to talk crime; you truly need to go and learn more. Maybe even open your eyes. In simple terms, turn on your own TV... there are 24/7 -365 Crime shows, based on REAL LIFE events, and they can run new shows everyday, showing every kind of crime imaginable "created by white people, upon and against other white people". "chart"
The news media may gloss over it, and they may turn it into a movie which makes you not see the reality, because you get hung up on the image of the actors recreating the crime and its activities. It's a form of trying to "sanitize white crime", by making movies of it, rather than headlines "news stories'... Yet, its the exact same crime and it damages lives, property, and engage every criminal act that people conjure up to create. You might want to try and delude yourself to 'pretend its not real", but go ask some of the parents of the victims, or ask some of the children who are victims, or as the families who have lost whole families, ask some of the people who've been robbed, swindled, stabbed, hacked up, shot up, beat up and every other vile thing that human beings can and have done to others. If they are at peace, because another white person committed the crime. I don't think you will be pleased with the answer you get.

One of the more dangerous things to other people as well as other ethnicity of people is a group of Racist young white males, this exist from communities to college campuses. These white hate groups are made of mainly of young white males, with older white males in it. No other ethnicity is running around preaching hate and madness against others just because of race, or ethnicity or culture. This is done by "white men and the women they delude to join them".

The Liberal minded whites have had enough of it from the white racist individuals and racist groups. They are tired of it... for decades they had to be silent to avoid these same racist types from attacking them. They had to be silent to avoid racist laws from charing them for simply being a social human being with other ethnicity and race and cultures of people. They were themselves, "Freed" by the Civil Rights Act... and here in the 21st Century, they are no longer afraid of the white racist. They know better than most, who these "white racist are", and they are calling them out and exposing them, they expose them on social media, and they expose them by every means they can. They have come together to march against "white racism", because they are not going to accept being wrongly labeled as supporting or being a part of such madness.

If you had understood anything of the post that was written, you never would have come back with such a comment. It only denotes your choice to be without comprehension or understand of what you read. You hate has blinded your mind and you can see beyond it.

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How does the democrat's and Obama's regulate and tax everything, anti-American and anti-white rhetoric, and their defense of mass immigration and enforced diversity
That's "the dumbest" ever!!!

Our Federal Government is built and supported with and by the tax base. Not one time did your tax go up one penny under President Obama, and the Corporate tax rate has been at 35% for the past 17 yrs... even in the 1946-to-1970's the "corporate tax rate" went from 52%-46%. at 35% it is lower than it has ever been since World War II and Post World War II. So, you need to learn things before your hate continues to drive you to make foolish comments that you don't know what you are talking about.

If you don't like American Taxes, you are welcome to move to another country, because American supports, promotes, protects and develops this nation by and through the usage of the American Tax dollars. Even those who claim to live in the wilderness, that same wilderness is Protected by "Tax Dollars", its why its not all cut down by the greed of logging and other activities that decimate the undeveloped lands.

Stop driving on the paved roads and don't go to the store and buy any food that is provided with protections by the FDA... and next time you get sick, don't buy any Medications, which was developed using American Tax funded dollars in their research and made to be safe by testing for FDA approvals. Don't drive a vehicle that was made to be safe by the Federal Minimum Standards, that assures that it meets the basic safety standards.

First off you need to stop taking everything for granted and always expecting something for nothing, as if someone owes you something because you have white skin. !!!!!

As for black people, even thought the history of black labor was taken through slavery and underpaid based on segregation, and still underpaid because of racism, and people were denied access to the things their labor helped to build... but what you don't see and won't see... is black people crying and whining about paying taxes. Because they know how to respect the fact that taxes help pay to maintain and create the many things that are for "general public usage", they did not whine and cry about taxes, when white people blocked black people from using the same things their forced labor and their taxes supported.

It's only "white people, generally of the Right Wing Mentality, who whine and cry and fight against paying taxes, because they think they are "entitled to something for free, just by being white". You only display the fact that you have a mentality of being a "user and abuser" and "take for granted everything" with a crazed sense that everyone else is suppose to pay for things that you so happily take advantage of and make use of.

people like you would be the first one to complain if the street lights don't come on, or the water faucet stops giving your water, or if a bridge washed out in a storm, or if a flood came and washed your home or trailer away, you'd be the first in line at the FEMA office.. yet, you want to complain about taxes and fight against the government. Your envy that black people have came from the bowels of slavery and now work where they can earn, and then you resent black people who get public assistance, when the history of their labors help build the systems across this nation for centuries. While people like you walk around taking everything for granted and being self consumed and anguished because your white skin did not give your free means to be economically made well off.

You expose yourself more and more every-time you write. But it was the same tax dollars that provided the schools , that you went to, to learn how to write. but you took that for granted as well, never realizing that is was tax dollars that supported it. You probably think only white people should have been able to attend a school... that's how insidious your commentary is.

You keep on stomping around thinking that being white is going to suddenly give your something for free, and time will only find you even older whining and crying and anguished because your white skin did not make you well to do economically for just being with white skin.

Many of the liberal minded and Multicultural respecting people... have no more time for people with your level of madness and vile... if you ever awaken from your self consumption of expecting stuff for being of white skin... then you might learn how to join society and respect the multiculturalism that is America.
You can't even go back to the land of your Ancestors, because they were a mix of many cultures long before they came here to America, you would not know were to go, and you likely would not fit in any of those diverse cultures that made up your background ethnicity, because you'd be running around preaching hate, as if you can hate part of the blood that runs in your own veins. You should be thankful for being a part of America and get over some delusion that you own it more than other others, American is owned by All Americans... the quicker you learn that, the better of you may be and you might not live in a continual fit of fear and anguish.

America belongs to The Federal Governance System of the United States and is managed by and through its collective of Individual States and their Counties of Respective States. if you ever doubt that, then if you own property, don't pay your property taxes and see who then takes re-possession of it !!!! Go make money and don't pay your taxes and see who comes and take from you what you owe!!! So, don't get it twisted... You own nothing, you are a part of the system of the United States, and to remain having personal access to property and possessions, you pay taxes... if not... you no longer will have your property or your possession. So... get over yourself and get over the delusion that your white skin can claim something for free.

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Old 08-20-2017, 07:34 AM
 
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You bring up some good points, but what we are watching unfold here is the rise of the oligarchs and the plutocracy in America. The United States has been run by and for the uber wealthy at least since the Reagan years if not before. Bill Clinton signed the death warrant for the working man when he signed off on NAFTA, the trade deal that has gone down in infamy. If there was any lingering doubt, Citizens United - the Supreme Court decision which allowed multinational corporations to have the same rights as individuals - put all hope for a democracy of, for, and by the people into its final grave.

It is simply beyond me why the American people would believe that a billionaire slum landlord with mob connections out of NYC might actually give a rip about the working man - and woman - of whatever race or culture. It is a time honored tactic of tyrants to set the people against one another - black vs white, Hispanic vs illegals and people of faith against people of a different faith. So far it seems to be working splendidly.

When oh when will the American people finally begin asking that most basic question cui bono? or, literally "for whose benefit?", a question in legal and police investigation: finding out who has a motive for a crime. It is an adage that is used either to suggest a hidden motive or to indicate that the party responsible for something may not be who it appears at first to be.

The American voter sometimes seems little better than a child in a fairy tale who suddenly discovers that the the big bad wolf has all those sharp teeth, "The better to eat you with my dear!" President Clinton (D) shipped our well paid American jobs off to the third world where they vanished never to see the light of day again. President Reagan (R) gave us "trickle down" economics (makes me think of golden showers for some reason). Bush 43 (R) gave us the grand war in Iraq which was strangely absent of the promised WMD's, but certainly gave his cabinet members and other buddies with deep ties to the military defense industry (think Halliburton and Dick Cheney) a chance to feather their offshore nests with plumage of pure gold. Hillary's (D) and Obama's (D) ties to to Wall Street and the Goldman Sachs boys are well known. Trump (R?) has used the highest office of the land to accumulate ever more wealth both for his own enterprises and those of his family and cronies - who can ever forget the "Mooch"?

Folks, the multi-billionaires and the CEO's of the International Mega-Corporations are NOT on your side. They will never ever be on your side. However, they are more than happy to have we plebeians all at one another's throats. It distracts us from looking at what's REALLY going on. "For whose benefit?" indeed.

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Old 08-20-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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Most of the Right Winger who push delusion, run from post in which they can't digest when truths confront them. They become anxious to bury the post, and many just try and run from it by every means. Often, they can't digest the information, because their mind builds up resistance against truth, factors and realism... they want to play the "victim", when elements indicate and point to them as the generalized aggressor in ethnic and racial conflicts.

They refuse to see, think or believe that their true adversary is the same wealthy industrialist of every sector, they try so hard to protect and deny as being the force that promotes the problems they face in the economic sector of society.

I've seen it over and over in this site. They quickly flee and there are those who's mission is to bury any post they can't understand and seek to deny what is within it.

"Hate can never produce anything but Ignorance !!!" and many work hard to remain being "ignorant" because they rely on Hate as their emotional feeding mechanism... then; they want to cry and make false claim as if they are a victim, when actual truth is they are the cause of what they perpetuate. It's Insanity!!!!!

Thank you to "Colorado Rambler" for putting it in short simple terms.
 
Old 08-20-2017, 08:00 AM
 
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I can't read that big, giant, wall of text. I have work to do and a fortune to build
 
Old 08-20-2017, 08:07 AM
 
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I will say this IMO, there has always been class welfare as someone who grown up in poorer communities I've seen it and it still exist today. It's not able left VS right not as much as some want to believe.
Those who have money want to stay in power and want to make the rules for the poorest class of people.

They are the ones dividing us. Using things like religion, party afflation, sexual preference to keep us divided.

Let's be honest here the middle class is long gone. Your either rich or poor these days it's the old saying


"The rich keep getting rich and the poor keep getting poorer."
 
Old 08-20-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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I can't read that big, giant, wall of text. I have work to do and a fortune to build
Yeah, if he got paid for word, he could be rich too.
 
Old 08-20-2017, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Yeah, if he got paid for word, he could be rich too.
You can make a fine living writing. However, the content has to be worth the effort to read. I'm not sure if this is the case. And quite frankly, I'd rather not take the chance. There's a whole lot of words going on up there...
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