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Old 08-24-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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You mean jobs that lefties won't do. They only think cushy office jobs or green jobs are the only jobs worth working at and the rest are loser jobs. Who do you think works in construction? Factories? Steel mills? Trades? Home repair? Sewage plants? Refineries? Water Treatment plants? Warehouses? It's mostly conservatives. (and the list goes on).


Lets walk in to a field and ask who is a republican?????:rol leyes:
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:39 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Lastly, the wall is old technology. People will be able to use rope ladders and nail-in handholds and footholds to climb the wall. You know - those little pegs used for indoor wall climbing recreation. The handholds/footholds can be kept in someone's pocked, then nailed into the wall in a few minutes for an easy climb.
Houses and many apartment complexes have fences or gates around them but you don't see anyone trying to climb over them or tunnel under them.
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Yeah, we should just have roving bands of staving, sick people roaming around. Just keep them out of your neighborhood, right?
Uh. No.

But if they aren't legally in the US....... and they weren't ever able to illegally enter into the US.......& they are currently living in Guadalajara or San Salvador......then we won't have to pay (money we don't have) Billions of Dollars for them to live here. & then they can Rove around Starving & Sick in Guadalajara or San Salvador.

But you're a pretty colorful writer, Redd.
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I'd rather pay for the wall than to pay 113 billion that illegals cost us.
You do realize that Home Depot sells ladders as high as 48 ft. right? How high is Trump planning to build his wall?

Also, tunnels are another option. "El Chapo" apparently escaped from a Mexican prison that way.

All of that nonsense aside, Trump is not going to build anything, he's all talk, and basically a tired old reality/game show host who paid the Russians to get him elected!
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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Anyone can climb over a fence of someone's house, dig under it, or cut through it. Surprisingly, people living in fenced off homes don't have any problems.
Wow this is beyond stupid.

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You don't care if we waste billions on illegal immigration?
We already have a wall. But Trump and his supporters are too stupid to know that we already have a big border wall that was built under Bush and it does nothing stop illegal immigration. Which proves they don't work. When are you people going to get that through your thick skull?
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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Houses and many apartment complexes have fences or gates around them but you don't see anyone trying to climb over them or tunnel under them.
Do they put razor wire on the top of fences just for decoration?
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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How about more border patrol guards?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.28efb6258326

Illegal immigrants help farmers more than any other sector of our jobs. Do you know of anyone who does or wants to work in farm work (besides owning a farm)?

A good physical barrier helps the Border Patrol do their jobs more effectively. Putting a wall on the most porous areas of the border will free them up to patrol the difficult and dangerous areas so fewer Border Patrol will be needed (another savings).


Only 2% of illegals are picking crops. There are unlimited visas for legal, foreign farm workers because it's not a career job for Americans and is only seasonal work. Many Americans don't live in rural areas either. So you were saying? I laugh every time you guys bring up the crop picking argument when most illegals aren't doing those jobs anyway they are doing jobs that Americans have always done for a fair wage until millions of cheap illegals flooded our border. Educate yourself on this subject and learn some respect for the rule of law.
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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A good physical barrier helps the Border Patrol do their jobs more effectively. Putting a wall on the most porous areas of the border will free them up to patrol the difficult and dangerous areas so fewer Border Patrol will be needed (another savings).


Only 2% of illegals are picking crops. There are unlimited visas for legal, foreign farm workers because it's not a career job for Americans and is only seasonal work. Many Americans don't live in rural areas either. So you were saying? I laugh every time you guys bring up the crop picking argument when most illegals aren't doing those jobs anyway they are doing jobs that Americans have always done for a fair wage until millions of cheap illegals flooded our border. Educate yourself on this subject and learn some respect for the rule of law.

I laugh when you don't consider that since they are ILLEGAL, they can't get into the country easily, even with work visas:

Maneuvering around and applying for these visas can be difficult, if not impossible for a single individual. More often than not, workers interested in acquiring a work visa have to apply for work with an international recruiter. Recruiters are usually able to offer them a position in a U.S. business, and can provide aid and advice in choosing a status and location.

Non-immigrant visas typically have a limit placed upon them as to how many applicants can receive the status. With H-2B and H-1B visas, the cap is 66,000 individuals per year. The cap is divided into two periods of 33,000 applicants per period.

It is notoriously difficult to get these types of visas, unless the applicant is able to apply as soon as the opportunity to do so arises. Applicants that wait to 30 days prior to the opening of the cap often miss out on the chance to be approved to hire nonimmigrant workers.

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It's kind of like saying that it's easy to get grants for college, when there's a bunch of hoops to jump through.

And you didn't even address the matter that there are so many OPEN jobs that America doesn't have the workers to even fill all the positions.
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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Wow this is beyond stupid.



We already have a wall. But Trump and his supporters are too stupid to know that we already have a big border wall that was built under Bush and it does nothing stop illegal immigration. Which proves they don't work. When are you people going to get that through your thick skull?

Nope! The 700 mile long wall on the most porous areas of the border already approved by congress in 2006 was never built. There are only some small areas with mediocre walls and some fencing and a few miles built with the good double layered walls. Now who's the stupid one? When are you and yours going to get the below thru your thick skulls? You turn a blind eye to the facts. That's simply asinine.


How Congress Prevented Border Fence Law's Implementation | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD


Where U.S.-Mexico border fence is tall, it works


San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control : NPR
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Old 08-24-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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I laugh when you don't consider that since they are ILLEGAL, they can't get into the country easily, even with work visas:

Maneuvering around and applying for these visas can be difficult, if not impossible for a single individual. More often than not, workers interested in acquiring a work visa have to apply for work with an international recruiter. Recruiters are usually able to offer them a position in a U.S. business, and can provide aid and advice in choosing a status and location.

Non-immigrant visas typically have a limit placed upon them as to how many applicants can receive the status. With H-2B and H-1B visas, the cap is 66,000 individuals per year. The cap is divided into two periods of 33,000 applicants per period.

It is notoriously difficult to get these types of visas, unless the applicant is able to apply as soon as the opportunity to do so arises. Applicants that wait to 30 days prior to the opening of the cap often miss out on the chance to be approved to hire nonimmigrant workers.

Source

It's kind of like saying that it's easy to get grants for college, when there's a bunch of hoops to jump through.

And you didn't even address the matter that there are so many OPEN jobs that America doesn't have the workers to even fill all the positions.
If they can't get in here legally on the work visas then we don't truly need them. What part of that don't you get? Just what are these open jobs that there aren't American workers to fill at a fair wage? If that were so then wouldn't our government have increased work visas for those jobs? We have millions of Americans out of work and no they aren't all lazy not by a long shot! You make no sense at all. Either way, coming here and working where illegally is unacceptable.
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