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How the Republicans on this board can whine about ugliness and hatred coming from the left when thread after thread after thread is filled with complete vileness, most recently lead by the OP of this very thread. Literally there is no self-awareness for the right - - completely clueless, ignorant individuals.
What most struck me about the interview was this comment: "We walked through four feet of water to get them food on the first day." The woman had kids and didn't even stock up with one day's worth of food beforehand?
Likely everything in the fridge and freezer are ruined and stinking due to the power outage and flood. Likely food in the pantry and cabinets are flooded as well. The only food that might be salvageable is canned food but they might not have a can opener if they don't have electricity. If they have manual can opener it might be under the dirty flood waters in a drawer somewhere. The flood waters might have been so deep that it was unsafe to go into the kitchen to look for a can or can opener.
Just imagine if your entire kitchen was under 8 feet of dirty water.
Some of the homes had the entire first floor flood completely. Sinks and countertops and cabinets were under water, as well as fridges and toilets and everything unusable. This is why some people went to their rooftops.
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Since there were warnings about this hurricane/tropical storm, were there no plans discussed by the leadership of this church as to what to do? Maybe they can't house people but they could act as a distribution center or whatever. If plans had been made, then you could have announced those plans when people asked about what the church was going to do. Now it just looks like you were shamed into doing smething.
Joel Osteen preaches a 'feel good' type of Christianity which doesn't really help in times of trouble. If you are promoting the love of God, you should be prepared to offer that love to the community (all churches should be doing this) in whatever way is feasible. The community will remember your actions and not just your words.
Since there were warnings about this hurricane/tropical storm, were there no plans discussed by the leadership of this church as to what to do? Maybe they can't house people but they could act as a distribution center or whatever. If plans had been made, then you could have announced those plans when people asked about what the church was going to do. Now it just looks like you were shamed into doing smething.
Whether there was legit reasons or not, it would seem they pretty badly bumbled their statements.
Update on my friend in the Beaumont/Port Arthur area (she lives between the two):
She and her husband have been basically trapped in their upper floor for 3 days now. Their downstairs and garage are flooded. They do have food, water, and basics. They've lost 4 vehicles. They had no flood insurance - this area has never flooded to their knowledge - it's not in a flood plain. They have also not been able to flush their toilets for days and days now. Amazingly they still have power. The water has receded a few inches this morning, thank God.
They have lost most of their furniture and many of their belongings. But they are some of the "lucky" ones because they are alive, they have food and water, and they have a second floor where they were able to move some of their most precious or irreplaceable items. They have a bed and a bathroom and they even have a balcony so they are able to step outside when their small room begins to close in on them (they actually only have 1 room upstairs from what I understand). They are holed up in this space with two dogs and a cat.
They have been insisting that resources are NOT used on them, because they are not in dire straits like so many others. They are clean, dry, have food, and have electricity, and have no underlying health issues that could create an emergency. But my heart breaks for her and for her husband.
It's probably information too late to help them with the toilet - BUT, a lot of people forget about the 40+ gallons of water in their hot water heaters. It can be drained manually into a bucket to use for toilets and even for drinking in an emergency.
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Here's the deal with them - the house was going to flood no matter whether they stayed or not. They were not in physical danger because they have a second story. They had stockpiled a lot of food and water and other supplies. They have adequate insurance. They chose to stay and continue moving what they could upstairs, and allow others in more need to tap into the community resources.
That being said, I think she probably didn't think through just how awful it is going to be to try to live there for the next week or so.
I really don't know what I would have done in her shoes.
From somebody who has been in this situation several times - I can tell you that I would have done exactly the same thing your friend did. Here's why - they stayed to protect what they could, knowing that they would not be in the full path of the Hurricane and that they were not in a flood plane or needed to worry about Surge. By staying - they were able to really think about what belongings to get to the 2nd story (I hope they remembered their papers) and while the situation got worse than what they expected ... they are OK.
I would do it in a heartbeat ..... I have done it, and by doing so - we saved our house from being flooded by mopping water that was pouring through the walls for hours.
TIP for those in Corpus Christi, Rockport, Port Aransas, Portland - the entire Coastal Bend that got the brunt of Landfall - IF you have interior water damage and no broken windows, your HomeOwners Insurance won't cover the water damage unless you have broken windows. This is for those who do not have flood insurance and did have the wind. I remember after a Hurricane in Corpus in 1970 (Celia, no power for 2 weeks) - my Dad went to see how his brother did during the storm.. Flooded house (as ours would have been if we had not mopped for hours) and no structural damage. My Dad went outside, picked up a large limb and threw it through the window. Told his brother - "Now you have an Insurance Claim for your flooding."
Since there were warnings about this hurricane/tropical storm, were there no plans discussed by the leadership of this church as to what to do? Maybe they can't house people but they could act as a distribution center or whatever.
THEY ARE acting as a distribution center and had made plans ahead of time to do so. But you won't hear about that part of their contribution because it's not good enough for the armchair Emergency Management specialists who insist the church should have sheltered an unspecified number of people without any regard for or knowledge of whether they had the functioning facilities or supplies on site to do so.
We live three hours north of Houston and were aware of the possibility of havoc and devastation a good four days before it hit. In fact, even in this area, people got out and made preparations because we lived through the damage from little baby Hurricane Ike 8 or 9 years ago and it was havoc.
But there's only so much you can do. Apparently Gov Abbott is extremely pleased with the response and cooperation from state, federal, and private entities.
that is such a positive hopeful statement....thank you
What most struck me about the interview was this comment: "We walked through four feet of water to get them food on the first day." The woman had kids and didn't even stock up with one day's worth of food beforehand?
They just didn't believe the National Hurricane Center, the Weather Reports or all the Warnings.
Now many 1,000's of people are trying to save them and been so for many days.
It's probably information too late to help them with the toilet - BUT, a lot of people forget about the 40+ gallons of water in their hot water heaters. It can be drained manually into a bucket to use for toilets and even for drinking in an emergency.
You asked this earlier:
From somebody who has been in this situation several times - I can tell you that I would have done exactly the same thing your friend did. Here's why - they stayed to protect what they could, knowing that they would not be in the full path of the Hurricane and that they were not in a flood plane or needed to worry about Surge. By staying - they were able to really think about what belongings to get to the 2nd story (I hope they remembered their papers) and while the situation got worse than what they expected ... they are OK.
I would do it in a heartbeat ..... I have done it, and by doing so - we saved our house from being flooded by mopping water that was pouring through the walls for hours.
TIP for those in Corpus Christi, Rockport, Port Aransas, Portland - the entire Coastal Bend that got the brunt of Landfall - IF you have interior water damage and no broken windows, your HomeOwners Insurance won't cover the water damage unless you have broken windows. This is for those who do not have flood insurance and did have the wind. I remember after a Hurricane in Corpus in 1970 (Celia, no power for 2 weeks) - my Dad went to see how his brother did during the storm.. Flooded house (as ours would have been if we had not mopped for hours) and no structural damage. My Dad went outside, picked up a large limb and threw it through the window. Told his brother - "Now you have an Insurance Claim for your flooding."
Won't help your friend, but good to remember.
Thanks for this feedback. I am so sad for her. Hopefully they will be able to rebuild. She has always posted beautiful pictures looking out across a pasture from her balcony. She loves her home. She has been grieving over family heirloom furniture that has been ruined.
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