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Old 09-02-2017, 06:06 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
No, you don't "get it."

The same arguments that were put out after Hurricane Sandy are just as applicable here. If we are going to spend $80+ billion helping these folks out, where are we going to cut?

The political affiliation of the flood victims make no difference.
This rolls back to the argument about repeatedly paying for the same homes being destroyed by floods. At what point do you say enough.
Secondly, at what point does peoples personal responsibility start and the government's stop? It used to be that charities were the buffer between people in need and the government trough.
When did that end and how do we restart it?

 
Old 09-02-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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What surprised me about the snail darter is that it turns up every place any work has to be done. For endangered; it knows how to multiply!
With our i-540 extension it was clams. All resolved now.
 
Old 09-02-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This rolls back to the argument about repeatedly paying for the same homes being destroyed by floods. At what point do you say enough.
Secondly, at what point does peoples personal responsibility start and the government's stop? It used to be that charities were the buffer between people in need and the government trough.
When did that end and how do we restart it?
If they don't change now they never will, they had a deficit of over $25B from sandy and Katrina. Some of these people have been flooded out 3 years in a row, this is insane. This people need to help but rebuilding in many of these areas is ignoring the facts. I was reading about Meyersland, TX a city of a few thousand and this is their 3rd consecutive flooding.
 
Old 09-02-2017, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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With our i-540 extension it was clams. All resolved now.

I love clams; did you save some? How about a little Cajun sauce on them!
 
Old 09-02-2017, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Sorry, but I can't help but laugh - the Left has become a JOKE.
Based on an Old Texas Battle Flag during our Revolution against Mexico
Come and Take them
Much older than that:
"According to Plutarch, Xerxes, king of Persia,
demanded that the Spartans surrender their weapons
and King Leonidas I responded with this phrase."
"Sounds so awesome in Greek"
 
Old 09-02-2017, 08:42 PM
 
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Does anybody know good reliable trustworthy charities to donate to for Harvey victims?
 
Old 09-02-2017, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I love clams; did you save some? How about a little Cajun sauce on them!
We be havin dat feast last year aboud lasmonth time but come on back in da Spring when we be having them crawdadas.
"Love dat bouillabaisse"
 
Old 09-02-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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Come and Take them
Much older than that:
"According to Plutarch, Xerxes, king of Persia,
demanded that the Spartans surrender their weapons
and King Leonidas I responded with this phrase."
"Sounds so awesome in Greek"
I actually studied the Greeks/Spartans in Public School, but that was in the Olden Days when Teachers were about Education and not recruitment for Social Justice Warriors.

Fast forward to the enlightenment of 2017 ...... Outrage of the Day is a pair of High Heel Pumps.
Nobody could have ever imagined how far the down the Leftists have taken up.

"Remember Goliad" ...... it's sorta right up there with "Don't Mess with Texas".
Neither one ever dreamed it would be over a style of Women's Shoes.

"Our New Normal" in our O-Era "Transformed America"
 
Old 09-02-2017, 09:25 PM
 
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Really? Name some that he rolled back that had any effect on this disaster.
Did I say it had any effect on THIS disaster? No I did not. Don't be ridiculous, the damage he's doing won't have repercussions felt until future disasters.

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The Obama-era standard required that builders factor in scientific projections for increased flooding and ensure projects can withstand rising sea levels and stronger downpours.

It required all federal agencies apply the standard to public infrastructure projects from housing to highways.

Rafael Lemaitre, former director of public affairs at FEMA who worked on the Obama-era order, said Trump is undoing “the most significant action taken in a generation” to safeguard U.S. infrastructure.

“Eliminating this requirement is self-defeating; we can either build smarter now, or put taxpayers on the hook to pay exponentially more when it floods. And it will,” he said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1AV1ZI

While I'm all for streamlining processes, it's very short sighted to roll back regulations for commerce's sake, foresight (or benefit of hindsight) be damned.

Regardless of what you believe about climate change, this is the third 500 year flood in Houston in as many years. Builders needs to take that into consideration. Unfortunately, as Donald well knows, there are unscrupulous developers and government contractors that don't care about pesky money costing safety rules, and will do the least they can get away with. Someone has to mandate it be done.

Some of the most arduous and costly regulations when it comes to doing adaptive reuse on old urban buildings are siesmic retrofit rules. But we've learned how to make buildings a lot safer in earthquakes and to do so is a moral requirement, AFAIC. Same with fire regulations. I do not trust that many developers would go through that process unless it was legally required.

Fast and cost effective rebuilding is great, but fast at the expense of future lives is not.

Remember the apartment building fire in London last month?
 
Old 09-02-2017, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Does anybody know good reliable trustworthy charities to donate to for Harvey victims?
If my husband and I had done a monetary donation rather than gathering up supplies, we would have donated to Samaritan's Purse.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...ary&orgid=4423

Good question.
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