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How many more times does this have to be spelled out? Just because somebody thinks somebody else's words are 'divine' does not mean that that somebody else is God Incarnate. I have read Plato, and I think his philosophy can be considered "divine." But I do not consider Plato to be God Incarnate.
In the Jefferson Bible, Jefferson himself ends his own version of the Gospel without Jesus ever rising from the dead. The last verse he has, "There they laid Jesus, and rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed."
That's it! No resurrection, no atoning for anyone else's sins, no conquering death - nothing! Just ... PLOP. Dead. Gone. Goodbye. Nothing else. Just like any ordinary person. Hardly God Incarnate!
Yet his very words say he was a Christian. As I said it is not for me to make that judgement. Others who wrote about Jefferson called him a Christian. Go debate with them. The thief on the cross simply said. Remember me when you come into your kingdom.
If somebody says they are a Christian, but everything else they say about Christianity is incorrect, then they aren't really a Christian.
Somebody can say they're a Christian all they want, but if they deny Christ's resurrection, believe the Bible is littered with fairy tales and deny that Jesus was God Incarnate, then they're not really a Christian.
If I wanted to, I could claim a was a Muslim and cite some nice things Muhammad said as evidence of my belief. But that wouldn't make me a real Muslim.
the better question is why some Christians vote Democrat?
I don't know maybe they look at the disparity between the massively rich versus the poor and the shrinking middle class as a problem?
Maybe they want to help the lowest denomiator that is stuck in a never ending tunnel of bad decisions, bad schooling , bad jobs, etc that life doesn't deal them with a equal hand that the upper class gets?
Maybe it's because our Savior focused on two things-- 1) the poor 2) encouraging us to point out your own faults as opposed to others (aka minding your own business)
Seems to me that Jesus may have had some liberal tendencies?
Actually, yes. None of these things are mentioned in the Bible or directly contradicting Jesus' teachings.
Abortion, to some, could be a grey area, but only if you think all death is bad, in which case you would have to be anti-gun, anti-death penalty, anti-war, pro-healthcare, pro-childcare. If you are anti-abortion AND have all the other consistent positions, then you would have a reasonable point.
But is there even one Trump supporter who has such a position? Highly doubtful.
Actually, yes. None of these things are mentioned in the Bible or directly contradicting Jesus' teachings.
Abortion, to some, could be a grey area, but only if you think all death is bad, in which case you would have to be anti-gun, anti-death penalty, anti-war, pro-healthcare, pro-childcare. If you are anti-abortion AND have all the other consistent positions, then you would have a reasonable point.
But is there even one Trump supporter who has such a position? Highly doubtful.
Huh??? Surely you aren't serious.
Death penalty was specified by God for the crime of murder. "If a man sheds another mans blood, by man shall his blood be shed."
Anti-war? So we are not supposed to do anything when we are attacked? Let's not be ridiculous.
Abortion is the taking of a human life. It is murder.
If you want to believe that give your paycheck away. The top 40% of income earners pay 99% of the taxes . Catholic Religion did away with the belief of socialism. Possibly this Pope is reviving this very wrong concept.
Seems to me that Jesus may have had some liberal tendencies?
Oh, please.
Jesus was not a political figure. He came for one purpose, and one purpose only, to announce the gospel ("good news") of salvation by Grace through Faith for all who would believe, and to become the "perfect sacrifice" for sin, by his blood shed for us on the Cross, taking upon himself the penalty for our sins.
Jesus taught charity, not redistribution of wealth by government.
Presidents, including Trump, and say they are Christians, and in a sense they are not lying, since even cultural Christians can call themselves Christians. Trump is not a born again Christian, and does not even claim to be one. As a matter of fact he says he does not need God's forgiveness, since he has never done anything which would need to be forgiven.
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Nixon was a Quaker?
That's what the report says ... and hooverville creating Hoover.
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he says he does not need God's forgiveness, since he has never done anything which would need to be forgiven.
I thought that too once and then God rained down His wrath on my head; a doubting Thomas I was no more.
There are 1500 different Christian faiths and each one of them believe they are the only ones going to Heaven. Interesting trivia ...
I disagree on so many levels in this post it makes me wonder which version of the gospels I read versus what others read. Jesus came to die for our sins, he didn't say the homeless and poor reap what they sow and we should show them no mercy. As I said no one on welfare is close to getting rich in benefits. If you worked as a social worker you would know this.
Those who accept Christ have the mercy of Christ immediately. Many are shone mercy and love and reject Christ and walk away because they love the world more than the love of Christ. When they do , Jesus said to wipe your feet and go on. Not my words,this was said by Jesus. Also written. Should grace abound that sin abound., God forbid. Many accept Christ, many reject Christ. We can pray for those who chose the world and their life when they reject Christ.
That's what the report says ... and hooverville creating Hoover.
I thought that too once and then God rained down His wrath on my head; a doubting Thomas I was no more.
There are 1500 different Christian faiths and each one of them believe they are the only ones going to Heaven. Interesting trivia ...
Many churches do believe that the banner of their church is for just an identity, They know that Jesus is the center of their faith.
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