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Old 08-27-2017, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Read the book. Actually, most of the white men of the town ARE portrayed as being Klan members. Rhett is a rare exception, not because he was an advocate of the rights of the former slaves, by any means, but because he believed the Klan was hot-headed and stupid.
He was also against the War, and knew the South would lose, and be destroyed. He was the voice of reason. He only joined the cause when he knew it was lost. A romantic gesture from the author, but not very practical, but heroes rarely are.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:44 AM
 
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I'm not so sure about that, although I can see that view point. She certainly was not the kindest person, and she was a "user" of men, and also cruel to them until Rhett, because ultimately she needed him. However, she never gave up, and while I didn't "like" her, I did admire her will, and determination.


Though one can certainly admire Scarlett's will, determination, and scheming ways with various men, the movie ends with her saying, "Where will I go? What will I do?" when Rhett leaves and frankly, doesn't give a damn.

This is not women's empowerment.

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Old 08-27-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Though one can certainly admire Scarlett's will, determination, and scheming ways with various men, the movie ends with her saying, "Where will I go? What will I do?" when Rhett leaves and frankly, doesn't give a damn.

This is not women's empowerment.

Nor is sitting at home doing needlepoint while your husband is off on a KKK raid to protect you.
OK, I am not saying I totally agree with you, but I think the book/movie does reflect the reality of the time. Should we censor it, and ignore it, and it's message? The message was the South as a society was over, and it paid the price for secession. Scarlet was a symbol, warts and all.

I do think she is a strong female character, with flaws. Remember, the typical female character of the time was often a shrinking violet. Scarlet was certainly not that. Also, take into consideration Oliva DeHavilland's character. A strong, yet righteous woman. The movie has two women as CENTRAL characters. They are the heroes of the film, and book in many ways.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Sure it does. If you do a bit of research you'll find that this theater has shown GWTW every year for the past 34 years.
Last show was 8/11. Charlottesville was 8/12.

The theater claims they received complaints after the last showing on 8/11 to now.

Very interesting timing.

Could be blind panic by the owners.

But you've opened a can of warms by stating "insensitivity" to the majority population (Memphis is 64% black) as the reason to pull the film.

People are now watching...including the Left.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Though one can certainly admire Scarlett's will, determination, and scheming ways with various men, the movie ends with her saying, "Where will I go? What will I do?" when Rhett leaves and frankly, doesn't give a damn.

This is not women's empowerment.
Quit talking about the plot.

It's insensitive.

Spread your hate speech elsewhere.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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I'm not so sure about that, although I can see that view point. She certainly was not the kindest person, and she was a "user" of men, and also cruel to them until Rhett, because ultimately she needed him. However, she never gave up, and while I didn't "like" her, I did admire her will, and determination.
She was cruel to him too. Always lusting after Ashley, who was in no way her type.

And Melanie was the ONLY PERSON who truly stuck by her, even though Scarlett couldn't stand her most of the time.

Isn't it ironic that Olivia de Havilland is the ONLY member of the main cast, probably the ENTIRE credits-listed cast, still alive?
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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People are now watching...including the Left.
Well they're not watching Gone with the Wind. They can't at this theater at least. Their CHOICES are now becoming limited to those that disagree. What other of our CHOICES are becoming limited, or will become limited? Is this freedom?

My freedom to view a Confederate statue, or flag is becoming limited. The reminders of the past are becoming limited. I never liked limits to my freedom. Do you?
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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i'm blaming trump for all this.

This wouldn't have happened under obama. Heck, there would be a race war if statues were coming down during obama.

Trump killed the Lost cause!

FDT!
Obama would have had sympathy with the conflicted. He was always having trouble with who he was, white or black, American or African. He had problems with white people and his white side of the family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBzDb8UB8yA
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Old 08-27-2017, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Read the book. Actually, most of the white men of the town ARE portrayed as being Klan members. Rhett is a rare exception, not because he was an advocate of the rights of the former slaves, by any means, but because he believed the Klan was hot-headed and stupid.
Funny, I thought this discussion was supposed to be about the MOVIE version. As was the editorial linked in the post I was responding to.
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Old 08-27-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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quit talking about the plot.

It's insensitive.

Spread your hate speech elsewhere.
lmao!!
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