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"True the Vote" still battling against an out of control government even under a new Administration as these Departments are still staffed with entrenched bureaucrats installed by and loyal to the previous administration. This must end! This is the "swamp" that must still be drained. But Democrats do not want to lose their power; so, instead of doing what is right, they continue to attack Trump and hope that citizens will just give up their fight, as Obama holdovers drag their feet in these cases, obstructing justice, and denying citizens their freedom.
This is why there is a President Trump. The entire IRS mess did a lot of damage to the country. People had to be able to trust it was non partisan. That it wouldn't go after people based upon their politics.
Yes, people had their suspicions but the exposing of their actions enforced what was once the realm of the tin hat crowd. Everyone should have been mad and demanded everyone involved to be fired and some prosecuted. Obama's lies should not have been shrugged off.
The GOP was no better with their dog and pony shows led by Goudy. All they were interested in was fund raising and power, not in solving the problem and holding people accountable.
Trump may have been a very poor alternative but he was the only alternative many people saw. I didn't vote Trump but indeed it played a role in me not voting for Hillary. It's a mistake to think that people are going to say "Oh well, let's go back to the old failed ways". No, they will continue to lodge protests votes one way or the other. It may take awhile but hopefully it leads to valid choices outside of (D) and (R).
Here is the head of the FBI who everyone says has so much integrity and is such a great choice to be special council to investigate Russian Collusion.
Notice how many time he says " I DON'T KNOW ". He lies to congress and is totally unprepared or uninformed to answer questions, on what at the time, was one of the most important issues of the time. He is cooperating in a cover up or is totally incompetent .
This is why there is a President Trump. The entire IRS mess did a lot of damage to the country. People had to be able to trust it was non partisan. That it wouldn't go after people based upon their politics.
Yes, people had their suspicions but the exposing of their actions enforced what was once the realm of the tin hat crowd. Everyone should have been mad and demanded everyone involved to be fired and some prosecuted. Obama's lies should not have been shrugged off.
The GOP was no better with their dog and pony shows led by Goudy. All they were interested in was fund raising and power, not in solving the problem and holding people accountable.
Trump may have been a very poor alternative but he was the only alternative many people saw. I didn't vote Trump but indeed it played a role in me not voting for Hillary. It's a mistake to think that people are going to say "Oh well, let's go back to the old failed ways". No, they will continue to lodge protests votes one way or the other. It may take awhile but hopefully it leads to valid choices outside of (D) and (R).
The IRS made some bad mistakes, all those conservative 501c's could still continue their tax free status for the most part. People read too much into a bureaucratic misstep, I don't equate their actions to "a lot of damage" or "weaponized" as is a favorite in right wing circles.
Besides, the GOP is now in control so let's have yet another IRS hearing to get to the bottom of this devious plot, none of the other hearings accomplished much and it would be a good diversion from Russia.
If they really wanted to solve the problem they could eliminate tax free status from these obviously political groups, that would solve the problem and take the IRS completely out of the pricture.
So how many conservative groups lost their tax free status in the last several years due to the IRS.
The IRS made some bad mistakes, all those conservative 501c's could still continue their tax free status for the most part. People read too much into a bureaucratic misstep, I don't equate their actions to "a lot of damage" or "weaponized" as is a favorite in right wing circles.
Besides, the GOP is now in control so let's have yet another IRS hearing to get to the bottom of this devious plot, none of the other hearings accomplished much and it would be a good diversion from Russia.
If they really wanted to solve the problem they could eliminate tax free status from these obviously political groups, that would solve the problem and take the IRS completely out of the pricture.
So how many conservative groups lost their tax free status in the last several years due to the IRS.
You do not shrug off "bad mistakes" by the IRS with partisan arguments. I noted that the GOP was as complicit in this entire mess. It's why people are looking outside the two main parties.
The IRS made some bad mistakes, all those conservative 501c's could still continue their tax free status for the most part. People read too much into a bureaucratic misstep, I don't equate their actions to "a lot of damage" or "weaponized" as is a favorite in right wing circles.
Besides, the GOP is now in control so let's have yet another IRS hearing to get to the bottom of this devious plot, none of the other hearings accomplished much and it would be a good diversion from Russia.
If they really wanted to solve the problem they could eliminate tax free status from these obviously political groups, that would solve the problem and take the IRS completely out of the pricture.
So how many conservative groups lost their tax free status in the last several years due to the IRS.
Its disingenuous to suggest that 501c's could continue their tax free status when the problem was those applying for tax free status were a major problem. What normally took 6 to 8 weeks went on for years before being approved. They were also targeted by multiple federal agency's for investigations and production of enormous amounts of personal and business information at a great deal of additional expense as a tactic to discourage them from exercising their civil rights.
Trying to conflate the issue of obtaining tax free status with losing tax free status but asking how many lost their tax free status is downplaying the issue. Why ? Excusing the corruption for political gain. Calling it a bureaucratic misstep when it is arguably one of the most sever forms of government over reach and abuse subjugating the citizens attacked to subjects of government.
Its disingenuous to suggest that 501c's could continue their tax free status when the problem was those applying for tax free status were a major problem. What normally took 6 to 8 weeks went on for years before being approved. They were also targeted by multiple federal agency's for investigations and production of enormous amounts of personal and business information at a great deal of additional expense as a tactic to discourage them from exercising their civil rights.
Trying to conflate the issue of obtaining tax free status with losing tax free status but asking how many lost their tax free status is downplaying the issue. Why ? Excusing the corruption for political gain. Calling it a bureaucratic misstep when it is arguably one of the most sever forms of government over reach and abuse subjugating the citizens attacked to subjects of government.
Keep in mind that those organizations were not prevented from continuing their lobbying efforts while their tax free status was examined. The IRS was not prepared for the avalanche of applications after the court ruling and came up with an ill advised method that increasingly targeted conservative organizations. I don't believe their was any deep ulterior motive other than a bureaucratic foul up.
Just offering a simple solution, take away the tax free status of any organization that is involved in politics. Why should these White Nationalist gain the benefit of a tax shelter as if they were a local charity.
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