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Old 08-28-2017, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The owner is receiving complaints about a movie he is showing, it's in his economic interest to stop showing the movie. If you believe he made an irrational decision, you have every right to create your own movie theater in a competitive market - choosing to show the film. You put pressure on the owner through competition, that's capitalism. What you're describing is just discriminatory social activism.
A lesson on capitalism from a socialist. Nice.
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:17 PM
 
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A lesson on capitalism from a socialist. Nice.
Nice to see you don't have a response.
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:17 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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You see how stupid sensitive people are with the confederate monuments removal, refusing to show Gone with the wind etc. All because they may get a few complaints. What if whenever they get complaints they actually stood up to them and said "Too bad, suck it up, don't like it, don't watch/look at it!" It seems just about every day now SJWs, Feminists and their ilk is finding something to be offended over and even if it's just a small number of complaints about something companies and business' and cities etc. immediately cave no matter how absurd the complaints are.

What if collectively they grew some balls and were willing to tell the whiners to just suck it up and deal with it?
I think the courts are to blame because companies can be ruined by a huge law suit. Look what happened to the cake baking people. Disgraceful but companies have to deal with these immature people every day. Maybe some new judges in the court system will help out the situation. It really is getting out of hand.

Our state has three judges controlling out election system. It is been said they didn't even listen to all the evidence. We need major changes in courts. They should not be replacing the vote of the people and when we have elected officials running things the courts should not be overriding what they do. My opinion is that the courts are overstepping their bounds.
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Nice to see you don't have a response.
READ IT...

Tennessee Theater Cancels Annual ‘Gone With the Wind’ Screening | Variety

1. Theater runs GWTW for 34 years.
2. Airs it on 8/11
3. Charlottesville happens on 8/12
4. Theater receives numerous complaints due to "racially insensitive" content of movie post Charlottesville to time of axing. This time frame coincides with the Left going absolutely insane on anything related to the Confederacy culminating in the removal of an Asian football broadcaster from a UVA game because his name is Robert Lee.
5. Response to the cancellation has been "mixed".

*****

The theater changed a successful business model of 34 years to accommodate the crazy Left knowing that if they didn't yank the film they would feel the wrath of the MSM/Left.

You can sit there and tell me "Hey, their business. Their choice."

And I'll agree with you.

BUT

If we had mechanisms in place where business owners weren't at the mercy of violent thug groups and the thought police it would be much easier for them to ignore the loons when they make demands.
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Old 08-29-2017, 12:04 AM
 
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Nobody is stopping them. Open up a business that sells Trump bumper stickers and t shirts.
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Old 08-29-2017, 12:13 AM
 
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READ IT...

Tennessee Theater Cancels Annual ‘Gone With the Wind’ Screening | Variety

1. Theater runs GWTW for 34 years.
2. Airs it on 8/11
3. Charlottesville happens on 8/12
4. Theater receives numerous complaints due to "racially insensitive" content of movie post Charlottesville to time of axing. This time frame coincides with the Left going absolutely insane on anything related to the Confederacy culminating in the removal of an Asian football broadcaster from a UVA game because his name is Robert Lee.
5. Response to the cancellation has been "mixed".

*****

The theater changed a successful business model of 34 years to accommodate the crazy Left knowing that if they didn't yank the film they would feel the wrath of the MSM/Left.

You can sit there and tell me "Hey, their business. Their choice."

And I'll agree with you.

BUT

If we had mechanisms in place where business owners weren't at the mercy of violent thug groups and the thought police it would be much easier for them to ignore the loons when they make demands.
Expect the theater is only responding to what the market demands, and preferences are constantly changing. If you think the owner made the wrong decision, you have the freedom to show your own screening of the film. Like it or not, people on the left have the same purchasing power as people on the right: A consumer is a consumer.

Regarding your "social mechanism" argument, it's not like people are standing outside the theater and intimidating people who try to enter. The owner made a simple cost benefit analysis and determined that the it wasn't worth the lost business to show the film. I don't take seriously and "thought police" argument; I would only agree with you if thugs were literally preventing people from entering the theater to see the film - which is illegal and clearly not happening here.
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Old 08-29-2017, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Expect the theater is only responding to what the market demands, and preferences are constantly changing. If you think the owner made the wrong decision, you have the freedom to show your own screening of the film. Like it or not, people on the left have the same purchasing power as people on the right: A consumer is a consumer.

Regarding your "social mechanism" argument, it's not like people are standing outside the theater and intimidating people who try to enter. The owner made a simple cost benefit analysis and determined that the it wasn't worth the lost business to show the film. I don't take seriously and "thought police" argument; I would only agree with you if thugs were literally preventing people from entering the theater to see the film - which is illegal and clearly not happening here.
Yes, it didn't happen because the owner got some complaints and immediately yielded to the pressure. Savages on the Left have been attacking folks in recent weeks. He probably didn't want any part of it.

You are doing a great job of throwing capitalism back in my face. I applaud it. If only it went both ways...then I could believe you actually mean it.
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Old 08-29-2017, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Nobody is stopping them. Open up a business that sells Trump bumper stickers and t shirts.
My contention is that while nobody is stopping them the Left has found a bulletproof way of using threats of violence and actual violence to impact the decisions of owners and consumers in the market.

They can play coy, as the libs in this thread have done but everyone knows what happens if you don't kowtow to the Left's demands.
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Old 08-29-2017, 02:55 AM
 
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Gone With the Wind played at the Orpheum Theater on Aug. 11th, the same Friday night that the Klan marched with torches and assaulted people around the statue of Robert E. Lee.
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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No, you're wrong.

There is a positive correlation between coverage and votes.

Correct so far.

But that's based on coverage of "regular" candidates.

Trump was covered as a freak show...which he is and why I watched.

As Trump's popularity grew the MSM, in true Leftist-form, began to really harp on his insanity 24/7 to tell us he's not in our best interest. The MSM considers themselves the guardians of truth and want to tell the people who and what is best for them.

CNN, MSNBC, etc are competitors...sure. But both experienced ratings spikes by bashing Trump. They rinsed and repeated.

Breitbart isn't MSM. They are like 12 years old. They don't have the collective clout of MSM heavyweights like CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, MSNBC, NYTIMES, WAPO.
Again, the correlation is consistent, regardless of the sort of coverage. Perhaps we need more nut cases to run to see if Trump was truly anomalous, but until then, we can base it on the fact that in previous elections, coverage, good or bad, resulted in better performance. I guess we'll see if I'm wrong in 2020 when we've got Kanye, Kid Rock, Catlyn Jenner, and Trump all running against each other.

As far as the "leftist media," they never showed Trump favorably; his popularity was irrelevant. You even identified why they took the path they did; ratings. Which translates to what? Money. If Trump bashing wasn't making them money, do you sincerely believe they'd continue doing it? Give an honest answer to that and the whole "evil leftists conspiracy" story sort of falls apart.
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