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Old 08-31-2017, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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John Kasich isn't a centrist; he's a moderate.
No, he's not. Not even close.



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Old 08-31-2017, 07:20 PM
 
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Trump had low approval ratings ever since he started running


He still won the nomination and the presidency



Polls aren't going to save you


Go ahead put out Kamala Harris or Cory Booker or Kirsten Gillibrand since they should easily slide to victory right?
You see, the laughable thing is to think we "need saved". I (a liberal) have plenty of money, a good family and a great life.

With Trump in I have entertainment also. It make me feel superior.

Sure, as a patriot (of the world) I would prefer our country advance. But if a bunch of a-holes feel strongly enough otherwise I won't get in their way.

The bay and sailing were very nice today.
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Old 08-31-2017, 07:23 PM
 
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No, he's not. Not even close.
Thanks for posting those links, people seriously need to know. Our perception of "moderate" Republican has become so skewed. Not just with the rise of Trump, but even before that, with the rise of the Tea Party.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:59 PM
 
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No, he's not. Not even close.
John Kasich is seen more socially a moderate who has less issues accused of racial stands and would pull the homosexual and righteousness card.... that is why Dems can accept and give him little flack. He never gets the hypocrite label and is seen as literally knowing the Blue-Collar perspective that gives respect from those who might be less Conservative politically and sway Democrat because of socially the are not opposed to those looking or sexually different.

John Kasich knows the hypocrisy of Trump and remembers the primary. He would be seen as a unifier if President with a ability to talk to both sides.... something we need greatly. The Dems in general ... would have respected this man as humble, not wishy washy, and disagree agreeably without a WALL put up.

He clearly is Conservative.... but without baggage of overly religious or with bigotry. He has a likeability factor that doesn't look down at those very different from him. We would have FAR LESS TURMOIL IF SUCH A MAN WAS AT THE TOP.

There is a reason he is seen as Moderate by Dems..... if you can't see it compared to so many others???? He knows what to say to Dems and in CNN interviews.... Heck he got TOTAL RESPECT from the Women on the TV show "The View" not many Republicans can.....

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Old 08-31-2017, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I don't think they lost their souls, but they had better have more up their sleeves than bashing Trump. It makes them look like sore losers instead of putting the energy into reinventing the party and moving forward.



Democrats are the anti-white party, but they can't admit that, so they pretend to be upset about other things (white privilege, racist cops, statues, etc.)


Over time, this pretending to be upset about all things white but not white people has cost them all credibility and the sympathy factor.


In other words, it's on!
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Old 08-31-2017, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Originally Posted by DavePa View Post
John Kasich is seen more socially a moderate who has less issues accused of racial stands and would pull the homosexual and righteousness card.... that is why Dems can accept and give him little flack. He never gets the hypocrite label and is seen as literally knowing the Blue-Collar perspective that gives respect from those who might be less Conservative politically and sway Democrat because of socially the are not opposed to those looking or sexually different.

John Kasich knows the hypocrisy of Trump and remembers the primary. He would be seen as a unifier if President with a ability to talk to both sides.... something we need greatly. The Dems in general ... would have respected this man as humble, not wishy washy, and disagree agreeably without a WALL put up.

He clearly is Conservative.... but without baggage of overly religious or with bigotry. He has a likeability factor that doesn't look down at those very different from him. We would have FAR LESS TURMOIL IF SUCH A MAN WAS AT THE TOP.

There is a reason he is seen as Moderate by Dems..... if you can't see it compared to so many others???? He knows what to say to Dems and in CNN interviews.... Heck he got TOTAL RESPECT from the Women on the TV show "The View" not many Republicans can.....
People on TV are mostly nice to whoever comes on their shows, otherwise they won't be able to get anyone else to come on again.

But no, Dems would not have supported a candidate who holds the opposite policy position on pretty much every issue Democrats care about.

The fact that some people bought into the hype just shows how much good marketing helps, but had Kasich actually been the nominee, these policy questions would have started getting a lot more air time.
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Old 08-31-2017, 09:52 PM
 
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I don't think they lost their souls, but they had better have more up their sleeves than bashing Trump. It makes them look like sore losers instead of putting the energy into reinventing the party and moving forward.
Look -- what the Democrats have is this: If we can get enough people to vote to take the property of Republican voters, we can take the property of Republican voters. So they continue to import foreigners who think that's a great idea.
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