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Old 08-30-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Yep.

Government loves rigging winners and losers for all of us.
And neither party wants to lose Florida, where sugar is still king. And that Fanjul money can come in handy.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Is this really some sort of secret?!?

I think I knew sugar, sweets, bread, pasta, and packaged processed foods were to be eaten sparingly by the time I was five (1979). I've never forgotten. But it's never been my place to tell anyone else how to do things.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:53 PM
 
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Sugar isn't bad in moderation, corn syrup is a lot worse, problem is that they put it in everything, I mean everything, pizza, cereal, bread, etc..
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:03 PM
 
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Sugar isn't bad in moderation, corn syrup is a lot worse, problem is that they put it in everything, I mean everything, pizza, cereal, bread, etc..
True...refined sugar is the real problem
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:03 PM
 
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More accurately, it's just more corporate welfare.
Fascism -
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Close to an earthquake
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Fat Al Gore may be jumping on this one to double down and diversify his global warming crusade wealth maker.
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:51 PM
 
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Is this really some sort of secret?!?

I think I knew sugar, sweets, bread, pasta, and packaged processed foods were to be eaten sparingly by the time I was five (1979). I've never forgotten. But it's never been my place to tell anyone else how to do things.
Well, hate to tell you this but many Italians (in Italy) for the most part eat pasta almost every day in one form or another and have one of the world's highest life expectancy. They're also big on bread, yes white bread made from flour, made from wheat and just chock full of gluten. I used to live there and witnessed this for myself. In fact my grandmother who loved to eat bread all by itself as a snack and most definitely ate pasta every day lived to be 103

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Old 08-30-2017, 08:55 PM
 
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Nothing is "bad" in moderation. Good grief...for years they told us eggs are evil. Followed by meat. Then it was fat in the diet. Now it's trendy to be no sugar.
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Old 08-30-2017, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Well, hate to tell you this but many Italians (in Italy) for the most part eat pasta almost every day in one form or another and have one of the world's highest life expediencies. They're also big on bread, yes white bread made from flour, made from wheat. I used to live there.
Good for them. It remains that these refined simple carbs can turn into body fat rather easily, and can play havoc with the body's metabolic response.

Refined simple carbs including sugar are something I moderate significantly. At less than a month from my 43rd birthday I'm at 11-12% body fat.

My main point is that "the public is unaware" in the OP makes it sound like there's some secret knowledge hidden from the perception of the hoi polloi. I'm pretty sure "sweets are bad for you" wasn't some privileged information I happened to pick up as a small child.
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Old 08-30-2017, 09:14 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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Corn syrup is actually the larger problem.

It's more or less the same as sugar nutritionally, and in small doses is reasonably safe. The problem is that it's not consumed in small doses. It's one of the most common food additives. And it's cheap. The reason it's so cheap is corn subsidies; this allows it to be used as the sugar component in sodas, allowing soda sizes to increase dramatically without any real change in cost.

Corn syrup is also not processed in the body the same way cane sugar is. It has worse health side effects given the quantity most Americans [unknowingly] consume.

But tackling something that gets subsidies is not an easy task, so I don't see it being the "tobacco" of the 21st century, unfortunately. Maybe. There's still 80 years left in this century. Things could suddenly become ethical, I guess.
^^This. I have a condition known as SIBO - small intestine bacterial overgrowth. I can't have high fructose corn syrup at all. The only sweeteners I can have are stevia and good old sugar. It's a pretty limited diet with exceptions made from time to time and with careful consideration. I don't know what I'd do without sugar since that and salt/pepper are about the only spices I can have. Moderation is the key to it all.
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