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Old 09-01-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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Unbelievable the experts on this forum blindly siding with the cop, making stuff up and ignoring the law including Supreme Court decision on involuntary blood draws.

Some people truly have no ethics, or shame.

 
Old 09-01-2017, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Did some of you not read the article before posting? The attorney representing the nurse said the cop cited a law that had changed in 2007, so he was citing a law to justify getting the blood sample that was no longer law.

In addition, the supervisor told the cop he was making a huge mistake and per hospital policy they were not allowed to do as he asked.

Excusing the abuse of power by cops (or anyone) is what allows them to continue abusing their power. Why do you insist on being part of the problem?
 
Old 09-01-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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Originally Posted by westcoastforme View Post
Actually it may be law to retrieve blood results from a driver from a crash/injury/death accident. The nurse is probably guilty of obstructing\similar charge

Do a little more research to make sure you're right
If you read the entire article and the one in the Salt Lake paper, the Implied Consent law that the police were citing was changed in 2007 and the US Supreme Court ruled in 2016 that it was illegal to do what the police wanted her to do. The police of all people should know what the law is, yet apparently they didn't. Had she done it, she could have lost her nursing license and the hospital would have faced a massive lawsuit from the patient and sanctions from the regulatory agencies. The hospital lawyers weren't just diddling around when they made that policy. They knew the law.

I hope the woman sues them and seeks charges of unlawful arrest against that cop.
 
Old 09-01-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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Actually it may be law to retrieve blood results from a driver from a crash/injury/death accident. The nurse is probably guilty of obstructing\similar charge

Do a little more research to make sure you're right
haha.. yes, please do more research.
 
Old 09-01-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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So the hospital has a right to violate the law?
There is no law that allowed for the police to do what they did.
 
Old 09-01-2017, 08:46 AM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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Nurse will be fine. Relax.
Whether Nurse will be fine or not but police officer surely has nothing to worry about. He's still on active duty
 
Old 09-01-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Sounds like the hospital administration was keeping abreast of changes in the law while the police department was not. Interesting. I feel for the nurse, and I'm glad she was released shortly thereafter without further incident. Being caught between your job and a burly, short-tempered guy with a gun on his belt is an uncomfortable place to be. Good for her for calmly and respectfully standing her ground!
 
Old 09-01-2017, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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The Nurse Practice Act allows all nurses to refuse to perform acts which would be a violation of their conscience and to request another nurse or doctor to perform it.


Nurse vs. Cop


Guess who wins?
 
Old 09-01-2017, 08:57 AM
 
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The Nurse Practice Act allows all nurses to refuse to perform acts which would be a violation of their conscience and to request another nurse or doctor to perform it.


Nurse vs. Cop


Guess who wins?
Violation of conscience to draw blood?
 
Old 09-01-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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I do not know what the law is but I have a hard time believing it allows the police to take blood from someone not suspected of doing anything at all wrong. Sounds like the guy was an innocent victim and the police were looking for an excuse to deflect any future lawsuits because of their participation in the chase that led up to the crash.

Whatever the law is, they should NOT be able to access this guys blood and even if they can with a warrant, I would not grant one as a judge.
Yup, I think this is the case as well.
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