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Old 09-01-2017, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Trump and his cronies keep telling us the economy has been booming since he took office and how terrible a job his predecessor did. Well, those pesky facts always seem to get in the way of their ridiculous non-sensical bloviating!

How Trump compares with Obama so far on jobs - Sep. 1, 2017

Here's another way to look at it: How is Trump faring on a straight year-over-year basis? He lags Obama there, too. There have been 1,189,000 jobs created under his watch so far, compared to 1,422,000 between February and August 2016.
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The economy still has that momentum from the Obama years.

Fact: tRump is in the weakest position of any prez in the past century.

Projection: He'll continue to decline in approval.

Opinion: If the economy turns downward, both tRump and the GOP will get a hard punch to the gut.

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Old 09-01-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Do people really believe there is a lever in the White House that controls employment on a monthly basis?
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Do people really believe there is a lever in the White House that controls employment on a monthly basis?
Way too many people will blame or credit the pres (whoever he might be) for good/bad economic developments. Sure, it's silly. But that's the reality.
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Do people really believe there is a lever in the White House that controls employment on a monthly basis?
I was referring to those on this board (There are a lot of them) and others who spout nonsense that Donny boys economy is booming and much stronger than the one he inherited. Facts are fussy things.
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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75 months of continuous job growth during the Obama years.

222,000 jobs created in July, 2016 vs 156,000 in July, 2017.

Maybe next month will be different.

Maybe, just maybe, job growth does not have as much to do with who sits the oval or holds the majority, as some think. What matters to most folk is how well they are faring.

In late 2015, 500 global manufacturing CEOs projected the US is positioned to recapture first place in global manufacturing by 2020. This projection was based on unprecedented backlog of orders for custom industrial robotics, not who would be elected in 2016.
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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I was referring to those on this board (There are a lot of them) and others who spout nonsense that Donny boys economy is booming and much stronger than the one he inherited. Facts are fussy things.
And facts are meant to be manipulated and played with, just like negative polls on Trump.

Fact is, Obama inherited a great mess with the Great Depression and did his part in fixing things while Trump did the total opposite. He inherited a great economy and is actively working to sabotage it. Entirely opposite of MAGA. But I guess you have to wreck it to fix it?
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I was referring to those on this board (There are a lot of them) and others who spout nonsense that Donny boys economy is booming and much stronger than the one he inherited. Facts are fussy things.
Tends to be the same who called Obama's job numbers fake who now call Trump's numbers the real thing despite no change is how the numbers are crunched.
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Old 09-01-2017, 02:13 PM
 
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The Winds From the Obama Turbine will eventually die down because Trump does not know how to re-fuel the engine, and he is so busy trying to wipe away Obama, that he does not even realize he is riding on the winds from the Obama Turbine.

The more time passes and the more damage Trump does, the economy will slow down and when Trump gets through attacking the Obama policies he will have damaged "millions and 10's of millions of lives of American people, and caused even more massive damage on a global scale.

Get Read for The Great Crash Under Trump... He's already spent the first 8 months "dividing the country" even more than his yelling and self gloating did during the elections process. He has FAILED to staff Federal Positions, and Attacked Departments of every type, he has a nut case in HUD and Energy is under the thumb of a self consumed maniac who truly needs to wear a dunce hat and sit in the corner out of the way. The Education is set up under a Criminal who has a War Mongering Brother, both together represent nothing but disaster for public education and the damages that private military contractors do around the globe, is an atrocity, while they try to hide their hand behind Congressmen who lie to over them.

Trump has his money chasing Son in Law wasting Taxpayer money and time trying to play "peace maker" when actually he is doing nothing but "trying to sell deals that help his family from under the debt that is larger by the days.
His daughter thinking she's some princess, when all she presents is a plastic image that fills her daddy's fantasies.
Then add in the Russian influences, its all a disaster in the making that may turn ballistic at any time... but how ever and when ever, it is destined to be a massive failure under Trump... I just hope it does not come to list us as a Failed State on the Global Measure.
It will be World War III because all those countries "will not sit idle" and watch their wealth be destroyed by America.

There is no recreation of the Old Days of Detroit... The Big Advertisers Now can't do anything but Advertise and Promote Foreign Made Products of Every Type. There is not going to be a New Rebirth of places and town that were known for Steel and Other Metals.
We can't even make enough nuts and bolts to even build anything out of wood.

No office is going to throw out the computer, and now with Cloud Computing, and people add programs to the Cloud, then even more things will become automated and that means more jobs will fade.
There is "nothing to bring back".... You can't bring back computer building, because we ran to China and Japan with that before we could even get a computer on every desk... We have no one building Cell Phone on American soil, who is widely known, and brands such as Apple, is not American, it only carries that name, its a Chinese Manufactured and Produced Product.

People are duped to listen to crap with drama by Trump... and become deluded.
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Just what kind of Jobs can Trump bring back???? List them, and list how many potential people across American such fictional jobs will employ?
All anyone has to do is go look at your "underwear" and find out where it was made, then look at your shoes, or your tennis shoes... Now walk through your house and count the "made in America items???? (If you can find any....)

Go to your system and see what kind of Tractors and other equip. they use for county and/or city business

People are looking for a pipe dream and thinking the "rich white man is going to save them".... They should by now be tired of that fiction and illusion.. that's the same thing people have thought since early america, and it has not happen yet, every era of wealth, the wealthy stash it for themselves, when they get too old, they either set up a foundation, or they die and their kids squander it. If you think that is not true, then ask yourself were are the mass fortunes of the Titan's of the 1800's and early 1900's? Then ask yourself where is the massive wealthy from the 1600-1800's Plantation Owners and their systems. If you look across the south, you see devastated states, yet, for 100's of years they made Hundreds of Billions and likely Trillions a plenty from slavery and indentured servititude... Yet, now southern areas are broke and struggling.

WAKE UP PEOPLE.... your illusions that Trump is going to magically fix your life is like a fever of madness has come over you.
President Obama told the people "truth, he said: American has to rebuild from the Bottom Up, With a Level Playing Field, and Everyone given equality in opportunity, and it would take the effort and works of everyone.... Now.. that is simple truth and mostly of the right wingers and bigots and racist and the wealth elites attacked it because it was and is the truth which they did not want told to the people.
Trump does not make, sale or own anything that is made or designed for "poor people"... he does not even hire poor people from American, he uses seasonal immigrant work from any country he can find it... as long as they are not black.

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The only thing that will help and rebuild America is "SMALL BUSINESS CREATION, and it needs to happen in EVERY STATE, AND IN EVERY COUNTY....
Rather than a Massive Tax Break... If Trump wanted to Help American People, he would be pushing for a TRILLION DOLLAR FEDERAL INVESTMENT to support "NEW BUSINESS START UPS" over a Two-Three Year Period, and plan for another Trillion to be invested in the Second year...
but it won't happen because he can't and does not think in terms of helping Americans in the True sense of rebuilding American through the American People.

The program for young people, could be done with less money than they plan to spend on additional Military Madness, it could be used to set up the Program "A Civic Corp"


Trump can't even bring manufacturing of Trump products or those of his daughter to America.. so why would any corporation listen to him?.....

People stop buying the hype... all your are doing is setting back another generation, expecting some fantasy to be given to you by Trump.... It's like mass insanity.
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Old 09-01-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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Do people really believe there is a lever in the White House that controls employment on a monthly basis?
yes, the stock market and gas prices too
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